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Old 12-29-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport: 152 Gates
Los Angeles International Airport: 112 Gates
Houston Intercontinental: 124 Gates
Atlanta International: 179 Gates
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Spain
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There are 121 gates at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). LAX is broken up into small terminals with 15 gates usually the max per terminal. This has constrained several airlines from being able to grow, such as Southwest Airlines. SWA would like more gates, but US Airways controls 25% of the gates in Southwest's terminal, preventing SWA from growing signifigantly at LAX.
Is THAT the reason there's no non-stop Southwest service from LAX to Portland?
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Is THAT the reason there's no non-stop Southwest service from LAX to Portland?
It is part of the reason. The legacy airlines like Delta sit on a lot of gates at LAX that they have locked into leases for and then don't really use. Delta and their subsidiary Northwest both operate out of Terminal 5 and control one gate in Terminal 6. They have 15 gates for just 66 flights per day. Southwest on the other hand is stuck sharing 15 gates with US Airways, so they usually have access to around 12 gates for 130 flights!!! SWA must use less gates than Delta for twice as many flights.

Hopefully LAX can get more aggressive in getting airlines to give up gates they aren't using. The airlines are clearly trying to prevent competition from growing, and an airline like Southwest is big competition. LAX got United to give up exclusive use to a few gates in Terminal 6 and make them share now as United's hub operation at LAX has shrunk from 240 flights to 195 flights per day (still the largest at LAX though).
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:02 PM
 
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^This is why the airport needs a complete overhaul. The small divided terminals worked in the past, but as the city has grown the amount of airlines that want to fly to LAX has grown too. LAX wasn't built for hub operations, but more and more airlines are operating enough flights to justify terminals bigger than just 15 gates.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:13 PM
 
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Tokyo Narita has around 100 gates.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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California airports (minus LAX which was mentioned at 121):

Bay Area:
San Francisco International: 93 gates (107 when Terminal 2 is complete) - United Airlines and Virgin America hub
Oakland Airport: 30 gates - Southwest Airlines focus city
San Jose Airport: 28 gates (going through construction)

Sacramento Airport: 27 gates

San Diego Airport: 44 gates

Rest of L.A. CSA (except LAX):
John Wayne/Orange County Airport: 18 gates (going through expansion for 24 gates)
L.A./Ontario Airport: 28 gates
Burbank Airport: 14 gates

Palm Springs Airport: 8 gates

Fresno Airport: 12 gates
Long Beach Airport: 8 gates
Long Beach Airport: 8 gates - JetBlue Airways West Coast hub
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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JFK - 162 gates
EWR - 112 gates (a few more if gates C29A and B, etc., count as two)
LGA - 76 gates
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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^This is why the airport needs a complete overhaul. The small divided terminals worked in the past, but as the city has grown the amount of airlines that want to fly to LAX has grown too. LAX wasn't built for hub operations, but more and more airlines are operating enough flights to justify terminals bigger than just 15 gates.
speaking of which,

Its one thing for numbers to be inflated on account of hubs, but when we weigh airports based on actual Point Of Origin and Destination Passengers(O&D), the rankings are very different.

if there were no hubs, and all service was simply point to point the 10 busiest markets would be...
1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Washington
4. San Francisco
5. Chicago
6. Miami
7. Las Vegas
8. Orlando
9. Dallas/Ft. Worth
10. Atlanta

Metro Area /Annual O&D Passengers/ % of all Passengers/ Number of Airports
New York...23,131,981...44.60%...6 airports
Los Angeles...21,601,626...56.70%...6 airports
DC-Baltimore...16,603,673...55.50%...3 airports
SF Bay Area...15,822,839...60.44%..3 airports
Chicago...15,714,601...40.00%...2 airports
Miami...14,414,116...46.10%...3 airports
Las Vegas...13,237,978...65.50%...1 airport
Orlando...12,315,240...67.60%...2 airports
Dallas-Ft Worth...10,783,437...34.60%...2 airports
Atlanta...10,252,745...23.80%...1 airport
Phoenix...9,781,240...51.60%...1 airport
Denver...9,728,207...40.00%...1 airport
Boston...8,085,813...67.00%...1 airport
Seattle...7,851,056...53.10%...1 airport
Philadelphia...7,576,660...50.90%...1 airport
Houston...7,062,801...29.90%...2 airports
Tampa...7,034,565...79.20%...1 airport
San Diego...6,559,802...80.30%...1 airport
Minneapolis...6,226,219...38.50%...1 airport
Detroit...5,996,168...38.20%...1 airport

Contents (http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/X-50%20Role_files/consumerairfarereport.htm - broken link)

I think its more accurate to do this by metro because all of the markets that have multiple airports serve basically the same customer base. They are flying into or out of the exact same area.

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Old 12-29-2009, 11:20 PM
 
Location: ☀ ѕυnѕнιne ѕтaтe ☀
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MCO -126 (Just MCO Alone Not Sanford Or Daytona)
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