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I honestly think mountains are over-rated, maybe becuase I'm young and unappreciative but I just do .
Anyway, I have actually spent time in Denver and really enjoyed my time there. It had a pretty nice downtown for a city of its size and I really thought the 16th (?) street mall walk was really cool.
BUT, I don't like the high altitude at all and the cold would kill me (not that St. Louis isn't brutally cold). I'm also a lot more familiar with St. Louis. Right now i'd say St. Louis, but maybe spending a little but more time in Denver could sway my view.
I was wondering what everyone thinks about the 2 cities since they are roughly the same size. Which one do you prefer? The criteria is urban landscape (density), variety of neighborhoods, things to do (sports, museums, arts, outdoor activities, etc) history, character, and culture.
The only category Denver tops St. Louis in is outdoor activities, otherwise St. Louis is better for every thing else.
The only category Denver tops St. Louis in is outdoor activities, otherwise St. Louis is better for every thing else.
I really don't think you have ever been away from Saint Louis.
The weather in Denver is just as crazy as it is here. I can remember it being 80 degrees in February for a week then dropping to below freezing almost over night.
The nightlife is awesome. Denver has a great sports scene: Broncos, Rockies, Avalance, Nuggets, Rapids (More than St. Louis). A cool arts scene, museums out the wazoo and a zoo that compares very favorably to the one in Saint Louis (point to Saint Louis).
Plus the Rocky mountains are about 1/2 hour away with some of the best skiing and hiking in the country.
What a lot of people don't realize about Denver is that it is a Plains City that it is relatively flat. I was also amazed that there were not a lot of trees (as I expected) in the metro area.
I don't know if I could live there (I really need to be around large bodies of water, and Lake Dillon and the Cherry Creek Reservoir just don't cut it) But given the choice between Denver and St. Louis, I'll take Denver,
To the poster above (jjacob). Yeah right!
How about:
Weather
Sporting events (more pro teams)
Bigger , busier downtown with more to do!
bigger tourism city
bigger airport
better skyline
FAR FAR safer!
better schools
less run down!
I could go on and on, but I realize that you ALWAYS knock on Denver in every post you have ever responded on so it is probably useless! But everyone knows that Denver will prevail in this post as well as almost every other post in which it is pited against another city! How about Denver versus milwaukee! I have plenty of thoughts on that one!
I really don't think you have ever been away from Saint Louis.
The weather in Denver is just as crazy as it is here. I can remember it being 80 degrees in February for a week then dropping to below freezing almost over night.
The nightlife is awesome. Denver has a great sports scene: Broncos, Rockies, Avalance, Nuggets, Rapids (More than St. Louis). A cool arts scene, museums out the wazoo and a zoo that compares very favorably to the one in Saint Louis (point to Saint Louis).
Plus the Rocky mountains are about 1/2 hour away with some of the best skiing and hiking in the country.
What a lot of people don't realize about Denver is that it is a Plains City that it is relatively flat. I was also amazed that there were not a lot of trees (as I expected) in the metro area.
I don't know if I could live there (I really need to be around large bodies of water, and Lake Dillon and the Cherry Creek Reservoir just don't cut it) But given the choice between Denver and St. Louis, I'll take Denver,
You have no clue what you're talking about. I was born in Grand Junction and have lived off and on in Denver for 13 years (approx. half of my life), most recently from July 2004 to December 2008. I know quite a bit more about Denver than you or damn near anybody else on this forum does. People always seem to think I'm bashing Denver by saying another city is better than it. I simply feel like Denver is way overhyped and doesn't deserve nearly as much credit as its given.
Here's the original criteria listed in the OP:
urban landscape (density)
St. Louis 5,724.7/sq mi
Denver 3,905/sq mi
variety of neighborhoods
Denver doesn't have as much variety in its neighborhood architecture as St. Louis. Outside of the core neighborhoods like Capitol Hill, Wash Park, and Highlands the majority of Denver is ugly ranch style homes built after WWII. Also, the only real ethnic presence you see in Denver is from the huge numbers of Latinos who live there, otherwise you don't see much in the way of ethnic neighborhoods. St. Louis seems to have more ethnicities represented.
things to do (sports, museums, arts, outdoor activities, etc)
Denver has more sports teams, but the fans aren't as loyal as St. Louis fans. The only sport St. Louis is missing is an NBA team, so they're not doing too bad. St. Louis has better museums and fine arts than Denver. People in Denver are too focused on what's outside of the city to really support a thriving arts scene. St. Louis is home to great universities like Washington University and St. Louis University, while Denver only has the University of Denver.
history
How many Olympics and/or World's Fairs have been hosted in Denver?
character
St. Louis has more character due to having more history and being prominent for a longer period of time.
culture
Denver doesn't have a distinctive culture to speak of, it's very Sun Belt-ish in this way. It's not quite the American Southwest, it's not quite a Great Plains city, and it's not really a Rocky Mountain city. St. Louis has a long and colorful history, first as a French fur trading post and later a Mississippi River port that was incredibly important to the nation's development.
To the poster above (jjacob). Yeah right!
How about:
Weather
Sporting events (more pro teams)
Bigger , busier downtown with more to do!
bigger tourism city
bigger airport
better skyline
FAR FAR safer!
better schools
less run down!
I could go on and on, but I realize that you ALWAYS knock on Denver in every post you have ever responded on so it is probably useless! But everyone knows that Denver will prevail in this post as well as almost every other post in which it is pited against another city! How about Denver versus milwaukee! I have plenty of thoughts on that one!
Hey D-Town 720, how's it going? Long time no see. What happened, did your other account get banned? I'm pretty sure having multiple usernames/accounts is against the TOS.
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