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Old 01-10-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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Someone throw in the towel for RussianIvanov please!
He's been shown how wrong and how contradictory he is left and right, and still he continues.

I feel so bad for the guy.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Alright, in case anyone is wondering how to factor in other things, here's the data for linguistic diversity (http://www.usefoundation.org/userdat...ted_states.pdf)

To keep in mind and put this all into context, so people don't start complaining too much, every metropolitan area aside from Philadelphia and Boston are way more racially diverse than the US as a whole.

United States - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008
65.9% Non-Hispanic White
12.1% Non-Hispanic Black
15.1% Hispanic
4.3% Asian
1.6% Two or more races
US Diversity Index:0.53

Yes, I understand there is ethnic diversity. Yes, I understand there is religious diversity. If anyone here has taken statistics, you would understand that the more groups you compare, the more and more useless the index becomes because it can only ask the chances that two people will be of different groups. Logically speaking, the more groups you have, the higher and higher the chance will become. If you have 100 different groups (ethnic, religious, linguistic, etc.) and compare them, there will no way that the the difference will be more than 1% (or 0.1 on the index).

Just accept the numbers for what they are and move on with your life. I think the thread has run its course anyhow. Let's just be glad we live in a country as diverse as ours to begin with. Truce?
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I know that. But if you look at the percentages of Hispanics broken down by nationality in Houston and San Francisco, most will be Mexican. Not all but most for the 500th time. Why is everything taken so literally? A sentence must be turned into a paragraph on here because people will find ways to alter your words. MOST DOES NOT MEAN ALL.
Wouldn't most of the Latinos in New York be Puerto Rican or Cuban in Miami?
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The truth is that YOU are the one that doesn't know anything about hispanic people or countries. Don't try to put everyone else behind your back. I can perfectly tell the difference between hispanic people by listening to the way they speak or their accent. All hispanic countries have different words in their language and people look very different too. There are hispanic countries where the majority of people are white skinned colored others are darker and others are mixed. Your post really made laugh so I give you a plus on that.
I don't speek Spanish, but I can tell the difference between Mexicans, Cubans, and Puerto Ricans by the way they look, their accents, and their food. I'm not as familiar with the South American countries, but I would assume it wouldn't be any different ESPECIALLY Brazil considering their native language is Portuguese not Spanish.
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Old 01-10-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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There are plenty of those in America. Do not try to kid me. In Russia they just want to keep their country from becoming westernized. In America they just hate you because your skin color is different.
As far as persons of ancestry, I see more persons from the East than I do of the West in Russia. Even so, those kinds of things should not be going on in any nation, period. I know America has issues. I can speak as a Black man in America that this is true.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Soon to be Southlake, TX
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Wouldn't most of the Latinos in New York be Puerto Rican or Cuban in Miami?
Yes. But for NY I would say there are almost a same amount of Dominicans in NY as Puerto Ricans. And many Haitians in Miami too that might be close to the number of Cubans.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Yes. But for NY I would say there are almost a same amount of Dominicans in NY as Puerto Ricans. And many Haitians in Miami too that might be close to the number of Cubans.
Actually there arent nearly as many Haitians in Miami as there are Cubans. There are also alot more Puerto Ricans in New York than Dominicans.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Soon to be Southlake, TX
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He's been shown how wrong and how contradictory he is left and right, and still he continues.

I feel so bad for the guy.
I do not need you to feel bad for me. I have a beautiful car.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Soon to be Southlake, TX
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Actually there arent nearly as many Haitians in Miami as there are Cubans. There are also alot more Puerto Ricans in New York than Dominicans.
There is still no possible way that any city in America has as many people from all corners of the world than NY. That is what I am trying to get at. If NY has so many Puerto Ricans and Miami has so many Cubans, good. I like Caribbean people. I love the Caribbean tropical paradise.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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I said mostly. What is it hard to understand the word "mostly" in America? I do not care who you went to school with. Who you went to school with does not sum up the whole city's diversity. SF is not more diverse than NY or LA and niether is Houston. They're not more diverse than Chicago either. That is ridiculous argument. That is ridiculous to claim at all no matter what the criteria is.
You just keep talking out your a$$ without any knowledge or facts to back your claims up. And I said "PRIMARILY," what is it hard to understand the word "primarily" in Russia??

I went on to explain that although Mexicans would make up the largest single Latino ethnic group in the Bay Area, most are significantly represented. Which you obviously are not aware of, hence my examples of what I was surrounded by growing up. I also explained that these groups are all here to be found, as well as their cuisine. This amounts to DIVERSITY, which is what we have here. Latinos here are not all Mexican, and since you're too incompetent to be able to tell the difference this fact obviously went over your head. You've already admitted that you can't tell the difference between various Latino ethnicities, so why are you even trying to argue here lol?

What's ridiculous is the fact that your only defense in this argument is, "its not more diverse!," without being able to cite any facts. That's just your uninformed opinion; notice how no one is taking your side here? Why do you want to keep embarrassing yourself like this?
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