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Both SF and LA have the largest Filipino populations in the country (the Bay Area has the most per capita outside of Hawaii). Chinese are the largest single group yes, but there are MANY different groups of Asians over here, and some of them are quite large.
I know there are many other ones. I am not arguing against that completely. I am arguing that the list is totally wrong because you can not judge a city's diversity based on race. They need to do it by nationality to get the true list. To say that Houston is more diverse than NY is ridiculous.
The truth is that most people do not know the difference between any of the Hispanic countries. It is not a place many people go to, it is not a place many people care about, and much of it is like 3rd world. Anyway Hispanic in Houston and San Francisco and LA is mostly Mexican. Not all but mostly. You can not call that diverse just because of that. And in SF and LA, most Asians are Chinese.
What they need to do is find a list with countries, not races. That would change this ridiculous list.
Someone from Russia calling Latin America third world, priceless.
Alright, since I'm such a stat head, I've decided to make a thread calculating the statistical diversity of each of our top metropolitan areas to finally put this argument to rest.
What is the most diverse metropolitan area?
(All data is from American FactFinder)
For the 2000 census, the US census released a diversity index (http://www.census.gov/population/cen...ensr01-104.pdf) calculating the statistical diversity of each county in the United States based on the 8 broad ethno-racial demographic groups seen in the census. If you look on the 4th page of the link above, the census demographers use simple mathematics to determine how they got the index to begin with:
1) Square the percentage of each group analyzed
2) Subtract that number from 1.00 (total diversity)
The range of diversity is from .00 (no diversity at all) to 1.00 (total diversity). For the sake of making our lives easier, I will only analyze five statistically significant groups: i) White Non-Hispanics ii) Black Non-Hispanics iii) Hispanics iv) Asian Non-Hispanics v)Two or more races
If you want to calculate it based on diversity within groups (like Italian Americans, Irish Americans, Indian Americans, etc.), just add those percentages based on the American Community Survey Link above and do the same thing.
TOP 11 LIST OF MOST DIVERSE METROPOLITAN AREAS IN TERMS OF RACIAL GROUPS (out of the top 11 populated metro areas): 1) San Francisco (.687)
2) Houston (.676)
3) Los Angeles (.664)
4) Miami (.663)
5) Dallas (.618)
6) Chicago (.605)
7) Washington (.604)
8) Atlanta (.599)
9) New York (.595)
10) Philadelphia (.494)
11) Boston (.346)
There. If you want to calculate your metro area/city/county/etc. or add more variables, just do what I did in the above. Just remember that the formula is
Interesting thread. My only concern is that the census bureau considers many non-white races as white. So in other words the census bureau considers people from all of the middle eastern countries, parts of Africa, and many other parts of the world as non-hispanic white.
NYC, DC, SF, and many other metro areas have a high population of people from the middle east - especially NYC and DC. SF metro especially has a high Indian population and they get pooled as white.
DC and NYC has a super high population of middle easterners. In DC metro there is a kabob restaurant in every corner - like no other city in America. But all of these non-white middle easterners are counted as white by the census bureau.
To me NYC is the most diverse metro I have ever been to, but according to this index NYC is ranked lower than many other metros that aren't even as diverse as NYC.
In summary, the white population numbers aren't really accurate because a lot of races that gets pooled as white aren't really white.
I know there are many other ones. I am not arguing against that completely. I am arguing that the list is totally wrong because you can not judge a city's diversity based on race. They need to do it by nationality to get the true list. To say that Houston is more diverse than NY is ridiculous.
But having to make a census based on nationality would take considerably longer.
There is more of a difference in Asian and white cultures than Latino. Hispanic countries all almost the same. But white can Russian, Italian, British, French, Greek, Swedish, Icelandic, Australian. Asian can be Chinese, Arab, Korean, Indian, Indonesian, Israeli. All are very different and speak different languages.
That's the funniest s... I've ever read.
Here's a picture of Costa Rica's national soccer team... just 11 guys from one of the smallest hispanic countries.
What will it take for you guys to be happy? I already provided the formula to calculating group diversity (its from a Statistics class I took here at Berkeley). If you guys really want to prove these numbers wrong, then use evidence and proof (IE empirical evidence). If you guys look on the American Community Survey website, its ALL THERE! Just play around with the site and do the math, if you don't like what you see.
Here are the nationality lists for New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco.
1. New York CSA (New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA - ACS Demographic and Housing Estimates: 2006-2008)
[LEFT]Total population[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]22,064,411[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]*****[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]22,064,411[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT](X)[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Hispanic or Latino (of any race)[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]4,430,219[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]*****[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]20.1%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]*****[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Mexican[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]556,088[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-13,818[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]2.5%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Puerto Rican[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]1,371,456[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-16,420[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]6.2%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Cuban[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]142,631[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-5,312[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]0.6%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Other Hispanic or Latino[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]2,360,044[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-18,230[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]10.7%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Two or more races[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]404,371[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-8,821[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]1.8%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]White and Black or African American[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]98,098[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-4,639[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]0.4%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]White and American Indian and Alaska Native[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]37,453[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-2,489[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]0.2%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]White and Asian[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]62,685[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-3,046[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]0.3%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[LEFT]Black or African American and American Indian and Alaska Native[/LEFT]
[RIGHT]21,256[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-1,899[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]0.1%[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]+/-0.1[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT] [/RIGHT]
(source: New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA - Selected Social Characteristics in the United States: 2006-2008)
Just from looking at the Ancestry lists on the American Community Survey websites, the White population of SF and LA are even more diverse than New York's. 27% of the total population of NYC Metro (or 50% of the White population) is of either Irish or Italian ancestry. That doesn't sound very diverse to me....
What are we expected to do with this? Obviously, some of you are taking this pretty seriously. I guess I'm not personally that edified by the knowledge that one city is slightly more diverse than the other. Is that reaaaaallly that important that City A is a fraction of a percentage more diverse than City B?
What are we expected to do with this? Obviously, some of you are taking this pretty seriously. I guess I'm not personally that edified by the knowledge that one city is slightly more diverse than the other. Is that reaaaaallly that important that City A is a fraction of a percentage more diverse than City B?
The things we get our undies in a bundle about.
It is something bad when Houston is ranked higher than NY in diversity. It is completely idiotic.
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