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Old 07-20-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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thats just about any city.

D.C. has had 67 murders this year so far. For a city of 600K thats higher than average and even though its down from last year, people in NE and SE D.C. don't see the difference.

SE I would argue still has a murder rate like New Orleans even with the lowest homicides in 40 years
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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SE I would argue still has a murder rate like New Orleans even with the lowest homicides in 40 years
Same with Chicago. If you hash it out by police districts that keep distinct stats and compare them to populations based on the community areas (the borders run pretty close), 3/4 of the city's residential areas have a combined rate of around 6/100,000. The other 1/4 of the city's residential areas have a combined rate of around 47/100,000.

Those unlucky are dealing with around 8 murders for every murder that happens in the areas where most of the people live.
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:10 PM
 
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Same with Chicago. If you hash it out by police districts that keep distinct stats and compare them to populations based on the community areas (the borders run pretty close), 3/4 of the city's residential areas have a combined rate of around 6/100,000. The other 1/4 of the city's residential areas have a combined rate of around 47/100,000.

Those unlucky are dealing with around 8 murders for every murder that happens in the areas where most of the people live.
Same with Cleveland. 138 murders a couple years ago mainly on the east side.. which is about 200,000 people.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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as of July 20th


Dallas, TX. - 84

numbers for same time frame

2009 - 96, year total = 166
2008 - 87, year total = 170
2007 - 120, year total = 200
2006 - 115, year total = 187
2005 - 113, year total = 202




Houston, TX. - 153
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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Dallas

2005 = 202
2006 = 367
2007 = 364
2008 = 308
2009 = 246
2010 = 137 (June 30)

Source: DPD statistics for Murders
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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Dallas

2005 = 202
2006 = 367
2007 = 364
2008 = 308
2009 = 246
2010 = 137 (June 30)

Source: DPD statistics for Murders

We've been over this before your reading the offense reports wrong, in fact your not even reading them at all.

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Through Monday, Dallas police (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Dallas_Police_Department - broken link) reported the murder tally for 2010 was at 80. At the same time last year, the total was 94, according to police records. There's still plenty of time for things to change, but those numbers are sure to be a welcome sign for Dallas police officials. Last year's murder total of 166 was the lowest in decades and marked the second consecutive year of decline.
Dallas murder total down compared to same time last year | CRIME Blog | dallasnews.com



If you want to count traffic fatalities as homicides then the larger numbers your posting are right.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:02 AM
 
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Dallas

2005 = 202
2006 = 367
2007 = 364
2008 = 308
2009 = 246
2010 = 137 (June 30)

Source: DPD statistics for Murders
Must be the number of murders in the county of Dallas and not the city of Dallas. According to Bureau of Justice Statistics from FBI Uniform Crime Reports annually . So factually Dallas' 317 murders in 1993 was the last time the city itself post more than 300 murders. From 2000-2009 these are the official numbers for the city of Dallas, annually.

2000-231
2001-240
2002-196
2003-226
2004-248
2005-202
2006-187
2007-200
2008-170
2009-166
Avg. 206 murders per yr.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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Must be the number of murders in the county of Dallas and not the city of Dallas.

No, hes just not reading the offense description on the offense reports DPD releases, traffic fatalities get filed under murder, but do not actually count as murder, hes just adding those to the murder tally.

Breakdown for City Of Dallas for 2010


Murder: 84, includes one (11-26-2009) that was changed from unexplained death to murder

Manslaughter: 01
Intoxication Manslaughter: 04
Criminally Negligent Homicide: 10
Traffic Fatality: 32
No-Coded/Police Involved: 05
Dropped/Waiting Grand Jury/Changed Jurisdiction: 01


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Dallas Past Totals since 1966 (missing 1971-1976)

1966 --- 120
1967 --- 133
1968 --- 192
1969 --- 232
1970 --- 242
1977 --- 230
1978 --- 220
1979 --- 307
1980 --- 319
1981 --- 298
1982 --- 306
1983 --- 268
1984 --- 294
1985 --- 301
1986 --- 347
1987 --- 323
1988 --- 366
1989 --- 351
1990 --- 447
1991 --- 500
1992 --- 387
1993 --- 317
1994 --- 295
1995 --- 276
1996 --- 217
1997 --- 209
1998 --- 252
1999 --- 191
2000 --- 231
2001 --- 240
2002 --- 196
2003 --- 226
2004 --- 248
2005 --- 202
2006 --- 187
2007 --- 200
2008 --- 170
2009 --- 166
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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No, hes just not reading the offense description on the offense reports DPD releases, traffic fatalities get filed under murder, but do not actually count as murder, hes just adding those to the murder tally.

Breakdown for City Of Dallas for 2010


Murder: 84, includes one (11-26-2009) that was changed from unexplained death to murder

Manslaughter: 01
Intoxication Manslaughter: 04
Criminally Negligent Homicide: 10
Traffic Fatality: 32
No-Coded/Police Involved: 05
Dropped/Waiting Grand Jury/Changed Jurisdiction: 01


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Dallas Past Totals since 1966 (missing 1971-1976)

1966 --- 120
1967 --- 133
1968 --- 192
1969 --- 232
1970 --- 242
1977 --- 230
1978 --- 220
1979 --- 307
1980 --- 319
1981 --- 298
1982 --- 306
1983 --- 268
1984 --- 294
1985 --- 301
1986 --- 347
1987 --- 323
1988 --- 366
1989 --- 351
1990 --- 447
1991 --- 500
1992 --- 387
1993 --- 317
1994 --- 295
1995 --- 276
1996 --- 217
1997 --- 209
1998 --- 252
1999 --- 191
2000 --- 231
2001 --- 240
2002 --- 196
2003 --- 226
2004 --- 248
2005 --- 202
2006 --- 187
2007 --- 200
2008 --- 170
2009 --- 166
That's F***kin crazy! What was the population that year?
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:31 AM
 
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That's F***kin crazy! What was the population that year?

FBI lists it at

1,028,362
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