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Old 01-12-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Sprawl City

A great website that dispels the numerous myths about sprawl on city data (myths like ""only Southern cities and LA have sprawl", Northern cities have no sprawl" etc.)

NY, DC and Philly more sprawling than Dallas
I LOVE this. Of course people are gonna argue weather or not it's a credible source. It's called SPRAWL CITY.com!!!
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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After reading through this thread, I see once again that people are confusing the effects of sprawl (tract housing, strip malls, Walmart, low density) with what sprawl actually is. Sprawl is simply the massive consumption of land for human settlements. As such, EVERY major American city sprawls and sprawls bad:


Oh Yeah! They Know We’re Here : Slice of SciFi

Doesn't matter if it's low density sprawl or high density sprawl. If it's 50 years old or 300 years old. Sprawl is sprawl.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:36 AM
 
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I LOVE this. Of course people are gonna argue weather or not it's a credible source. It's called SPRAWL CITY.com!!!

The problem isn't so much whether it's a credible source...but that the data used to rank the sprawl of the cities is from 1970-1990. It's 20 years old, and a lot has changed in 20 years. That's the only reason I question the validity (not the credibility) of the ranking.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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After reading through this thread, I see once again that people are confusing the effects of sprawl (tract housing, strip malls, Walmart, low density) with what sprawl actually is. Sprawl is simply the massive consumption of land for human settlements. As such, EVERY major American city sprawls and sprawls bad:


Oh Yeah! They Know We’re Here : Slice of SciFi

Doesn't matter if it's low density sprawl or high density sprawl. If it's 50 years old or 300 years old. Sprawl is sprawl.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If Houston is America's worst sprawl than so is LA. Once Houston is as populated as LA is now; it will have similar density.

Los Angeles:
Population: 3,833,995
Density: 8,205/sq m
Land size: 469.1 sq mi

Houston:
Population: 2,242,193
Density: 3,828/sq mi
Land size: 579.4 sq mi

Los Angele has the mountians and Houston has the flood plains stopping them from building on certain areas in their city limits.
Lol, that's really reaching. Who knows if Houston will ever be as populated as L.A. Just because it's in the sunbelt doesn't mean it will experience ever lasting growth.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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This comparison is not that drasitic and the Houston highest area of density is 17,000 people per sq. mile. Los Angeles is going to have higher higher density because it's more population and does inculde more multi-family homes.
L.A is larger than Chicago, but Chicago is more dense.
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Why is everyone so fixated on density? Density is not always a good thing. Sprawl is treated like a dirty word on here. Chicago metro is one of the most sprawling there is
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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L.A is larger than Chicago, but Chicago is more dense.
But Los Angeles is larger in land size.
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in the universe
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Why is everyone so fixated on density? Density is not always a good thing. Sprawl is treated like a dirty word on here. Chicago metro is one of the most sprawling there is
I've heard it's sort of an American(U.S.) thing. It's good to have an urban core, I think, but I don't think that the suburbs are that bad or anything.
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:19 PM
 
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I've heard it's sort of an American(U.S.) thing. It's good to have an urban core, I think, but I don't think that the suburbs are that bad or anything.
They aren't seen as sustainable communities, but the truth of the matter is that the majority of Americans have chosen to live in the suburbs.

We also have to keep in mind that city-data is not representative of the majority of Americans.
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