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Old 02-25-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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This is educational attainment and median HHI for non-Hispanic Whites (city limits). I'll try to do it for metro areas when I have more time.

Washington, DC (89.40%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
San Francisco (72.31%/$95,011)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
Denver (61.49%/$58,565)
Miami (59.88%/$62,009)
Minneapolis (57.86%)
Dallas (56.30%/$66,270)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
Charlotte (55.34%/$69,789)
Houston (52.82%/$71,908)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Los Angeles (51.83%/$67,252)
Baltimore (50.26%/$58,046)
Portland (49.15%/$54,375)
Cincinnati (45.62%/$48,127)
St. Louis (44.65%/$48,302)
Pittsburgh (42.52%/$45,359)
Phoenix (36.54%/$55,758)
Buffalo (36.46%/$41,108)
Milwaukee (35.41%/$47,316)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Detroit (23.96%/$26,391)
Cleveland (23.81%/$33,581)

Looks like Cleveland is our winner followed very closely by Detroit.
Interesting that Philly has a lower proportion of college-educated whites than Pittsburgh.
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
This is educational attainment and median HHI for non-Hispanic Whites (city limits). I'll try to do it for metro areas when I have more time.

Washington, DC (89.40%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
San Francisco (72.31%/$95,011)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
Denver (61.49%/$58,565)
Miami (59.88%/$62,009)
Minneapolis (57.86%)
Dallas (56.30%/$66,270)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
Charlotte (55.34%/$69,789)
Houston (52.82%/$71,908)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Los Angeles (51.83%/$67,252)
Baltimore (50.26%/$58,046)
Portland (49.15%/$54,375)
Cincinnati (45.62%/$48,127)
St. Louis (44.65%/$48,302)
Pittsburgh (42.52%/$45,359)
Phoenix (36.54%/$55,758)
Buffalo (36.46%/$41,108)
Milwaukee (35.41%/$47,316)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Detroit (23.96%/$26,391)
Cleveland (23.81%/$33,581)

Looks like Cleveland is our winner followed very closely by Detroit.
Interesting that DC and Atlanta are both majority Black and they top this list. I wonder if the percentage of college educated whites is higher in both of those cities has anything to do with the fact that whites aren't the majority population and that a good percentage of whites living in those cities come from outside the city vs. places like Boston or Seattle where whites are the majority. I'd wager that if you looked at all major cities, the native (as in born/raised) population (regardless of demographics) would have lower education attainment percentages than residents who are non-native (moved from somewhere else). Since cities like Boston and Seattle have more native white people (born/raised), the percentage of educated whites is lower than cities like Atlanta/DC where whites are a minority and make up less of the native population. I've got nothing to back it up, but it's a hunch.
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Interesting that Philly has a lower proportion of college-educated whites than Pittsburgh.

I am not all that surprised as there are large sections of Philly (Lower South,Far NE, NE) with large white and blue collar neighborhoods. Now the Philly burbs would be a pretty significantly different story
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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Default Atlanta - Definitely White Collar City.

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You hear this a lot "blah blah, old blue collar city, etc." Or "blah blah, exciting, white collar city." So in your mind, what cities seem more blue collar or working class, and which cities do you think of as white collar, professional, etc. Obv, every city has a balance of both, but I believe people are referring mostly to the overall culture, history, and vibe of the city in question.

So, by region, I'll take a stab at what my impressions are. I haven't been to most of these cities, and the ones I have been to I mostly haven't seen much of them, so this isn't much more than guessing. I only included cities I have an opinion on, feel free to have more


Northeast:
Boston - White (IMO seems very white collar, despite what you sometimes hear)
Providence - blue
Philadelphia - classic Blue collar city
NYC - White, though it's so big it is kind of stupid to call it one or the other, Manhattan seems to define white collar
Washington DC - White
Baltimore - Blue
Pittsburgh - Blue

South:
Charlotte - White
Atlanta - Blue?
Flordia cities - no clue
New Orleans - Blue
Dallas -white /Ft Worth- Blue ? just guessing
Houston - white, but I really don't know
San Antonio - Blue
Austin - white


Midwest:
St Louis: Blue
Kansas City - Blue
Des Moines - White
Minneapolis - blue? white? seems like it could be either
Chicago - Blue
Indianapolis - Blue
Cleveland - Blue
Detroit - Blue

West:
Denver- blue?
Salt Lake City - white
Albuquerque - Blue
Phoenix - white?
LA - white, but maybe just in reputation
San Diego - White
Bay Area - White
Portland - Blue
Seattle - White



I see you put a ? near Atlanta it's definitely a white collar city. Very diverse but more corporate headquarters are here than probably anywhere else in the South.
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Old 11-16-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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Interesting that DC and Atlanta are both majority Black and they top this list. I wonder if the percentage of college educated whites is higher in both of those cities has anything to do with the fact that whites aren't the majority population and that a good percentage of whites living in those cities come from outside the city vs. places like Boston or Seattle where whites are the majority. I'd wager that if you looked at all major cities, the native (as in born/raised) population (regardless of demographics) would have lower education attainment percentages than residents who are non-native (moved from somewhere else). Since cities like Boston and Seattle have more native white people (born/raised), the percentage of educated whites is lower than cities like Atlanta/DC where whites are a minority and make up less of the native population. I've got nothing to back it up, but it's a hunch.

Or, the only white people who move to DC are professionals working in or adjacent to government.
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Pittsburgh to me is a very blue collar,work hard and earn you're way kind of place.
The city of Pittsburgh is white collar though and has been for some time. At least within the city limits.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Philadelphia is more white collar. Eds and meds dominate the economy.

Seriously, Rocky was ****ing 40 years ago folks.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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You hear this a lot "blah blah, old blue collar city, etc." Or "blah blah, exciting, white collar city." So in your mind, what cities seem more blue collar or working class, and which cities do you think of as white collar, professional, etc. Obv, every city has a balance of both, but I believe people are referring mostly to the overall culture, history, and vibe of the city in question.

So, by region, I'll take a stab at what my impressions are. I haven't been to most of these cities, and the ones I have been to I mostly haven't seen much of them, so this isn't much more than guessing. I only included cities I have an opinion on, feel free to have more


Northeast:
Boston - White (IMO seems very white collar, despite what you sometimes hear)
Providence - blue
Philadelphia - classic Blue collar city
NYC - White, though it's so big it is kind of stupid to call it one or the other, Manhattan seems to define white collar
Washington DC - White
Baltimore - Blue
Pittsburgh - Blue

South:
Charlotte - White
Atlanta - Blue?
Flordia cities - no clue
New Orleans - Blue
Dallas -white /Ft Worth- Blue ? just guessing
Houston - white, but I really don't know
San Antonio - Blue
Austin - white


Midwest:
St Louis: Blue
Kansas City - Blue
Des Moines - White
Minneapolis - blue? white? seems like it could be either
Chicago - Blue
Indianapolis - Blue
Cleveland - Blue
Detroit - Blue

West:
Denver- blue?
Salt Lake City - white
Albuquerque - Blue
Phoenix - white?
LA - white, but maybe just in reputation
San Diego - White
Bay Area - White
Portland - Blue
Seattle - White
Cleveland and Detroit aren't blue collar cities anymore. Same with Chicago and Indianapolis. Rust Belt/Midwest, in general is no longer blue collar that work doesn't exist in those areas anymore.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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Philadelphia is more white collar. Eds and meds dominate the economy.

Seriously, Rocky was ****ing 40 years ago folks.
Same could be said for Pittsburgh. The whole rap on the Rust Belt is that those industrial jobs are GONE.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Same could be said for Pittsburgh. The whole rap on the Rust Belt is that those industrial jobs are GONE.
Thank you. Sick of this elitist sh_ just assuming that the Midwest is still Blue Collar, like it's the f_ seventies of something.
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