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02-11-2010, 02:25 PM
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Location: ITL (Houston)
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Originally Posted by grindin
Even though I agree that NO is a world unto itself, a lot of people don't realize that the heavy migration/exchange between Houston and New Orleans existed long before Katrina.
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You can see this with all the Saints fans in the area now. If the NFL had chosen Houston for this year's Super Bowl instead, it would have become Hou-Dat nation. 
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02-11-2010, 03:15 PM
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Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA
Yes and No. New Orleans supplies most of the goods to the midwest and mississippi river valley and it's home to the 1st and 8th largest seaports. Plus, where do you all think most of the oil that Houston gets the credit for comes from? The companies moved to Houston, but most of the oil infrastructure stayed here. Many of the oil companies have there white collar in Houston, but the production aspect and blue collar are still here.
We're no longer a Dal/Hou/Atl, but we are more important than we get credit for. I will add that the future is looking increasingly good for us as well.
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Well I agree that I believe N.O. will become much better than it ever was,I still have doubts as far as it achieving a status on par economically with ATL/DAL/HOU.Before Katrina it was not quite even in Charlotte's league.No matter how important its oil and seaports are.
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02-11-2010, 03:42 PM
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Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Look at all the snow in Dallas-Fort Worth. A winter wonderland. A foot of snow is expected in some areas of the DFW metropoltian area. So much for global warming I guess.
Posted by member Acntx
snow today Feb 11
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02-11-2010, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by afonega1
Well I agree that I believe N.O. will become much better than it ever was,I still have doubts as far as it achieving a status on par economically with ATL/DAL/HOU.Before Katrina it was not quite even in Charlotte's league.No matter how important its oil and seaports are.
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I was thinking the same things. NOLA was more on par with Nashville and Memphis economically.
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02-11-2010, 09:17 PM
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Location: New Orleans, United States
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Originally Posted by afonega1
Well I agree that I believe N.O. will become much better than it ever was,I still have doubts as far as it achieving a status on par economically with ATL/DAL/HOU.Before Katrina it was not quite even in Charlotte's league.No matter how important its oil and seaports are.
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Yeah, if we talk 90's-present (I know that's all that matters here right now, but I'm just saying). Compare NO to Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston 25 years ago. They basically grew past it, Houston at NOLA's expense. Thanks to the oil bust and some shady politics (both state and fed). Louisiana's economy basically ran to Houston like a hurricane was coming. IMO, if it wasn't for the political aspect, NOLA would be a much denser version of what Houston is today.
Reality: NOLA went from the very top to being so low that it can't go any other way but up. All cities will go through that phase (maybe not as extreme).
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02-11-2010, 09:30 PM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by kdogg817
Look at all the snow in Dallas-Fort Worth. A winter wonderland. A foot of snow is expected in some areas of the DFW metropoltian area. So much for global warming I guess.
Posted by member Acntx
snow today Feb 11
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R U serious? If anything, receiving heavy snowfall down south is evidence in favor global warming, not against it.
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02-11-2010, 09:32 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA
Yeah, if we talk 90's-present (I know that's all that matters here right now, but I'm just saying). Compare NO to Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston 25 years ago. They basically grew past it, Houston at NOLA's expense. Thanks to the oil bust and some shady politics (both state and fed). Louisiana's economy basically ran to Houston like a hurricane was coming. IMO, if it wasn't for the political aspect, NOLA would be a much denser version of what Houston is today.
Reality: NOLA went from the very top to being so low that it can't go any other way but up. All cities will go through that phase (maybe not as extreme).
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I remember when this was going on.
A lot of the new/fairly new office buildings on Poydras seemed to almost empty out at the same time. It seemed like it happened very fast - from a casual observer that made frequent visits back then.
I still miss Maison Blanche.......
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02-11-2010, 09:35 PM
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Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Originally Posted by LINative
Historical note:
Delaware has always been on the NORTHERN or Pennsylvanian side of the Mason-Dixon line.
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Right and Delaware is actually EAST of Maryland and DC, not North, which shows you how foolish that Mason-Dixon line nonsense is in the 21st century. The Potomac river is more of a natural divide between north and south and it even looks like the midway point on a map. Better than some imaginary line from 1840.
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02-11-2010, 09:39 PM
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Location: New Orleans, United States
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Originally Posted by johnatl
I remember when this was going on.
A lot of the new/fairly new office buildings on Poydras seemed to almost empty out at the same time. It seemed like it happened very fast - from a casual observer that made frequent visits back then.
I still miss Maison Blanche.......
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It really did. Everything, just went to Houston. The building Shell built in Houston is nearly identical to their building here.
Ah.. Maison Blanche, memories. It eventually became Dillard's.
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02-11-2010, 09:47 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by WestbankNOLA
It really did. Everything, just went to Houston. The building Shell built in Houston is nearly identical to their building here.
Ah.. Maison Blanche, memories. It eventually became Dillard's.
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Yep. If I'm not mistaken, One Shell Plaza was taller than anything in Atlanta until the Westin was built.
My first visit to Nola was during the oil BOOM of the mid-late 70's. I was ready to move there almost on arrival!
My Mom was a Tulane grad, so I had heard so many wonderful stories over the years. Sadly, I haven't been down there since Katrina.
As far as MB now being Dillard's, I know. Sad.
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