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Old 05-31-2007, 12:38 PM
 
Location: VA
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I wondered when all this politically correct talk started when a City was rated by how ethnically diverse it was. I get the impression that many people feel Portland and Seattle are bad places because they are not like New York and LA (which are both 20% non Hispanic White). Translation: If a City has to many White people it is a bad place!

I always thought both Portland and Seattle were great places because there was just enough ethnic diversity to make it interesting but without the overwhelming diversity that led to bad schools and the mega social problems found in New York and LA.

I like West Portand due to the thousand foot high hills over the downtown and the forested area nearby. Seattle seems treeless in comparison.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:41 PM
 
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I know for a FACT that Seattle has a fair mix of all races. Not sure of the population size of the city but know it's very well mixed. What's the "real deal" with Portland though?

I'm getting this feeling that the 60's hippies have turned in to racist Republican conservatives now dominating the whole state of Portland. At least that's the way some of these posts come across...To me that makes no sense! If it is happening then it can't be a liberal city. Anyhow, is Portland supposed to be the Amsterdam of the U.S. or does Seattle fit that category better?
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:44 PM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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Eugene is 90% white. She made the most of her time there, but lack of a social life, community, etc. was very hard on her. She is a boho-type and had friends there, but dealing with the absence of color, shall we say, was tougher than she expected. She was just glad to go where there were more people of color, even if it was LA!
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:52 PM
 
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I'm surprised! The locals describe Eugene as a very laid back community with small independent shops, thriving arts culture and lot's of vegan eateries amongst other things. It's hard to believe that a white socialist community would
lack a social life and not accept her in to their social circles. I don't know just seems odd. I can tell you that California has a mix of everything and it's hard not to fit in because there are so many communities. I personally love California and the school system is very good.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Default I took these in Seattle yesterday









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Old 05-31-2007, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I hate to say this but I love living in the pnw but being black I learned to stay away from those small towns that are far from Seattle and Portland. Ok to visit those small towns but never would I ever live in them.
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Old 05-31-2007, 02:30 PM
 
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Are you presently living in Seattle or Portland?
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I live in Seattle. I love living here. Its a very outdoorsy city with plenty to see and do. I also love that downtown Seattle is really becoming the place to be. So much new construction, the grand re-opening of the newly expanded Seattle Art Museum(SAM) and the Olympic Sculpture Park. Its also a great city for good music especially jazz which is my favorite.
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:39 PM
 
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Jazz is one of my favorites as well. It's been a while since I've been to Seattle. Honestly, I can barely recall it other than seeing the Space Needle and being mystified by its glorious presence. Could you shed some light as to how Portland compares to Seattle?

I'm curious about overall cost of living/quality of life?
Population comparison as well as density/sprawl?
Culture and racial mixture as well as overall political tone of the city?
Weather (year round)?

Really anything that comes to mind that will pain an honest picture through your eyes and experience...
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Old 05-31-2007, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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IMO they're really alike in many ways. I could live in either and be quite satisified. Population wise our metro area is just about at 4million, Portland a little over 2. Seattle's suburbs sprawl much more than Portlands. Weather wise I've been to just about every major city in North America and I can honestly say I love Seattle weather. Many find the winters dark and dreary but coming from the east coast I find them great. I hate extreme cold, snow and ice so Seattle is perfect for me. In my 7 years of living here I have yet to see snow accumulate to any degree or even see snow stick around for more than 24 hours. Winter temps are moderate and you constantly see people walking the streets on any given day. One gripe I do have is I noticed many long time locals don't like change. As a result public transportation and roads need improvement. And thank god lightrail is coming. With 4 million people you need more than buses in this town. Portlands public transportation seems light years ahead of Seattles'. On one good note I did do quite well without a car for over 2 years in Seattle. (I recently puchased one) It's so easy to navigate without a car only if you live within the city limits though.

Both cities are two of my favorite NA cities. As far as crime I'll say it again, these two cities are paradise compared to many large cities throughout the U.S. I've seen and lived in far worse.
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