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2010 Homicide rates for all those cities you listed.
Los Angeles: 297
Baltimore: 223
Memphis: 93
New Orleans: 175
Oakland: 94
Detroit: 308
St. Louis: 142
Birmingham: 63
Cleveland: 105
Dallas: 148
Atlanta: 80
There all as bad as each other buddy.
Those are the number of homicides, not the homicide rate. And it looks like you got some of the numbers wrong. Homicide rate is per capita, which is used to get a equal comparison taking population into consideration. To get the homicide rate, take the number of homicides and divide it by the population, to get per 100k use 1 for 100k. So for Detroit, it has a little over 700k people now and around 350 homicides per year, take 350 and divide it by 7.1, about 49/per 100k.
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Originally Posted by lgonzalez12
Thats the murder count. It's not the same. These numbers might not be for this year buts an idea what a crime rate looks like.
Los Angeles - Pop. 3,848,776 - 6.25
Baltimore - Pop. 638,755 - 15.3
Memphis - Pop. 667,421 - 18.06
New Orleans - Pop. 336,425 - 13.37
Oakland - Pop. 404,553 - 16.79
Detroit - Pop. 908,441 - 19.67
St. Louis - Pop. 355,208 - 20.7
Cleveland - Pop. 429,238 - 13.95
Dallas - 1,290,266 - 7.92
Atlanta - 552,901 - 11.5
I mean do the math...LA has over 11 times the population size of New Orleans...so LA should have 11 times the homicide count, right? NO has more then half the amount of homicides but is 11 times smaller. Look it up LA is nowhere near as dangerous as some of these places. I know people from South Central that don't like going to Baltimore or Birmingham
You're right, but those population numbers are off. Use the correct 2010 census numbers.
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Cleveland didn't have 105 homicides in 2010, it was 77. The Greater Cleveland area as a whole had 145. And all those counties listed as a whole had a population of 2,780,440. The rate was 5.2/100,000 people. Cleveland saw a big drop from 2009 to 2010, from 122 to 77. Still way too many people losing their lives, but it was a big decrease. A drop in homicides | cleveland.com
I think 77 was correct, but even with that number Clevelands homicide rate was still 19.5/per 100k.
Don't take what CelticGermanicPride says seriously, he's the guy who thinks that Compton is soft, and who thinks he could talk crap to the gangsters there with no repercussions, because they are all "cowards" according to him. He literally said that he would lay out any bloods and crips in Compton...and his demonstration of how he would beat them up? A video of a hockey fight LOL
don't take what i say seriously? i'm not the one coming up with the statistics. you're not arguing with me when i say compton is a a lot better than many other hoods, you're arguing with documented crime statistics.
i never said i could talk crap to gangbangers with no repercussions. i specifically said i could call compton soft to a couple gangbangers there and i guarantee you the most they will do is call me a cracker and tell me to "get the f outta here." that's the repercussion. and that doesn't just go for compton, that goes for anywhere. no gangbanger would be stupid enough to risk jail time over someone like me. he makes no money from me, i don't live around there, i pose no threat whatsoever to his stash. you're right about me saying i could take on a crip or blood one-on-one though. i've trained in krav maga, muay thai, and have been training in bjj for almost 3 years now. gangbangers are the worst fighters i have ever seen fight. they run at you, hands waving, no technique, they just swing aimlessly.
i posted the hockey fight video as an example of how real men fight and as a joke, you know, "rob ray style." one-on-one, with a clue, techniques, and some patience. which is the opposite of how gangbangers fight and exactly why a gangbanger wouldn't last 5 seconds vs an experienced fighter.
nice try though, trying to twist everything i said in that response weeks ago as if i wouldn't be able to recall it and call you out on it.
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Those are the number of homicides, not the homicide rate. And it looks like you got some of the numbers wrong. Homicide rate is per capita, which is used to get a equal comparison taking population into consideration. To get the homicide rate, take the number of homicides and divide it by the population, to get per 100k use 1 for 100k. So for Detroit, it has a little over 700k people now and around 350 homicides per year, take 350 and divide it by 7.1, about 49/per 100k.
You're right, but those population numbers are off. Use the correct 2010 census numbers.
I think 77 was correct, but even with that number Clevelands homicide rate was still 19.5/per 100k.
Yea the murder rate per 100k in Cleveland was 19.5, the 5.2/100,000 people was for the whole Greater Cleveland CSA which as of 2010 had a population of around 2,780,000.
Wow you believe all that? You are a gang apologist. The police are absolute saints compared to gang bangers. NOLA police are the worst, admittedly, but your attitude is what feeds gangs and gang violence. The police would not be as jaded and corrupt as they are if not for the criminal element itself, which constantly tries to corrupt law enforcement. I think there should be 'gang prisons' out in the middle of Utah or Nevada, with no internet and no visitation privileges. If you go to prison and you are in a gang, you get cut off, period.
Besides, if your kids sold drugs and that's what put food on the table, you definitely cannot call the police when you are in trouble. That's how it works. Haven't you seen 'The Godfather'?
The culture of hating the police is one of the crutches that keeps poor minorities from advancing and leaving the ghetto.
Nice sentence, BTW. You sure 'said it'. Go back to school and brush up on English grammar and Social Studies, then get back to us.
Oh my bad I forgot to put the word NEED in my sentence. And yes those numbers are off...the population and homicide rates are not from this year it was just an example of how LA stacks up against those cities...
Now...I dont know what ivory tower you grew up in but where and where most people are from cops are filthy. Chicago, NY, LA, Baltimore are all well known for their corrupt police departments. More cops are crooked then not. Do you remember a guy by the name of Rodney King? Have you heard about whats going on in London? Haven't you seen "Boys in the Hood". Police are racist and take the law into their own hands and abuse it. I'm not saying there arent any good cops out there because there are plenty. But I've dealt with corrupt police myself and it hasn't always been a dangerous city. I've dealt with it in Mississippi, North Carolina, and Ohio. 600 Million dollars worth of coke was "lost" by Miami police. Atlanta police shot and killed an unarmed man in handcuffs...in handcuffs!
And you realize that there will always be a ghetto. People can't be rich unless there are poor. So no it's not the mentality of hating cops that keeps people in the ghetto it's the social hierarchy created by man that keeps people in the ghetto...and how convenient it's everyone but white people...hmmmm thats odd don't you think?
I don't want to be harsh. I agree with you. I think that police have it pretty tough, that they would do a better job if they got more support. Power=corruption, and having the law on your side while you carry a gun and have a license to kill can certainly corrupt a person, so I know what you are saying. Police need to find positive rewards for doing their job, not just monetary otherwise the criminal element will always win.
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Originally Posted by lgonzalez12
Oh my bad I forgot to put the word NEED in my sentence. And yes those numbers are off...the population and homicide rates are not from this year it was just an example of how LA stacks up against those cities...
Now...I dont know what ivory tower you grew up in but where and where most people are from cops are filthy. Chicago, NY, LA, Baltimore are all well known for their corrupt police departments. More cops are crooked then not. Do you remember a guy by the name of Rodney King? Have you heard about whats going on in London? Haven't you seen "Boys in the Hood". Police are racist and take the law into their own hands and abuse it. I'm not saying there arent any good cops out there because there are plenty. But I've dealt with corrupt police myself and it hasn't always been a dangerous city. I've dealt with it in Mississippi, North Carolina, and Ohio. 600 Million dollars worth of coke was "lost" by Miami police. Atlanta police shot and killed an unarmed man in handcuffs...in handcuffs!
And you realize that there will always be a ghetto. People can't be rich unless there are poor. So no it's not the mentality of hating cops that keeps people in the ghetto it's the social hierarchy created by man that keeps people in the ghetto...and how convenient it's everyone but white people...hmmmm thats odd don't you think?
Don't take what CelticGermanicPride says seriously, he's the guy who thinks that Compton is soft, and who thinks he could talk crap to the gangsters there with no repercussions, because they are all "cowards" according to him. He literally said that he would lay out any bloods and crips in Compton...and his demonstration of how he would beat them up? A video of a hockey fight LOL
If that's the case. He should go to crenshaw and slauson on a Saturday night.
don't take what i say seriously? i'm not the one coming up with the statistics. you're not arguing with me when i say compton is a a lot better than many other hoods, you're arguing with documented crime statistics.
i never said i could talk crap to gangbangers with no repercussions. i specifically said i could call compton soft to a couple gangbangers there and i guarantee you the most they will do is call me a cracker and tell me to "get the f outta here." that's the repercussion. and that doesn't just go for compton, that goes for anywhere. no gangbanger would be stupid enough to risk jail time over someone like me. he makes no money from me, i don't live around there, i pose no threat whatsoever to his stash. you're right about me saying i could take on a crip or blood one-on-one though. i've trained in krav maga, muay thai, and have been training in bjj for almost 3 years now. gangbangers are the worst fighters i have ever seen fight. they run at you, hands waving, no technique, they just swing aimlessly.
i posted the hockey fight video as an example of how real men fight and as a joke, you know, "rob ray style." one-on-one, with a clue, techniques, and some patience. which is the opposite of how gangbangers fight and exactly why a gangbanger wouldn't last 5 seconds vs an experienced fighter.
nice try though, trying to twist everything i said in that response weeks ago as if i wouldn't be able to recall it and call you out on it.
Anybody can talk about how big and bad they are on internet forums. You think they won't shoot you. They hate people like you with a passion, they will be glad to remove you from the block.
Oh my bad I forgot to put the word NEED in my sentence. And yes those numbers are off...the population and homicide rates are not from this year it was just an example of how LA stacks up against those cities...
Now...I dont know what ivory tower you grew up in but where and where most people are from cops are filthy. Chicago, NY, LA, Baltimore are all well known for their corrupt police departments. More cops are crooked then not. Do you remember a guy by the name of Rodney King? Have you heard about whats going on in London? Haven't you seen "Boys in the Hood". Police are racist and take the law into their own hands and abuse it. I'm not saying there arent any good cops out there because there are plenty. But I've dealt with corrupt police myself and it hasn't always been a dangerous city. I've dealt with it in Mississippi, North Carolina, and Ohio. 600 Million dollars worth of coke was "lost" by Miami police. Atlanta police shot and killed an unarmed man in handcuffs...in handcuffs!
And you realize that there will always be a ghetto. People can't be rich unless there are poor. So no it's not the mentality of hating cops that keeps people in the ghetto it's the social hierarchy created by man that keeps people in the ghetto...and how convenient it's everyone but white people...hmmmm thats odd don't you think?
no, it doesn't. not one neighborhood in the entire los angeles area was mentioned in the list of the top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the country.
big bad compton has 90,000 people and only had about 26 murders last year. i can think of neighborhoods elsewhere with half that many people and twice as many homicides.
That's happening every where buddy.
Washington DC is at it's lowest since 1963.
Chicago is at it's lowest since 1965.
Los Angeles is at it's lowest since 1967.
Dallas is at it's lowest since 1967.
Detroit is at it's lowest since 1967.
San Diego is at it's lowest since 1968.
Memphis at it's lowest since 1971.
Long Beach, CA is at it's lowest since 1971.
Canton, OH is at it's lowest since 1965.
St Louis is at it's lowest since 1967.
In 2006, New York was it's lowest since 1965.
But soon, they will all be back up again in no time.
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