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View Poll Results: Which N.American City has the Best Asian Subculture?
Los Angeles (San Gabriel Valley)/ Orange County 13 11.30%
San Francisco Bay Area 52 45.22%
Sacramento 3 2.61%
NYC (Queens) 14 12.17%
Northern Virginia (Fairfax County) 1 0.87%
Vancouver 14 12.17%
Toronto 5 4.35%
Honolulu 13 11.30%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 08-29-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Seattle has a big asian scene as well.
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Unread 08-29-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Alright, here are the numbers:

Honululu, HI MSA
Asian population:
395,277 (43.7% of the total population); of which
Asian Indian: 1,291 (less than 1% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 16
Cambodian: 449
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 50,163 (12.7% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 126,433 (31.9% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 249
Indonesian: 48
Japanese: 144,380 (36.5% of the Asian population)
Korean: 24,770 (6.2% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 1,262
Malaysian: 148
Pakistani: 95
Sri Lankan: 189
Thai: 1,306
Vietnamese: 9,139 (2.3% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 35,339 (8.9% of the Asian population)

San Diego, CA MSA
Asian population: 301,939 (10.1% of the total population); of which
Asian Indian: 19,580 (6.4% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 57
Cambodian: 3,786 (1.2% of the Asian population)
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 43,588 (14.4% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 133,112 (44.0% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 1,062
Indonesian: 1,490
Japanese: 18,264 (6.0% of the Asian population)
Korean: 21,377 (7.0% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 4,602 (1.5% of the Asian population)
Malaysian: 139
Pakistani: 952
Sri Lankan: 435
Thai: 2,591
Vietnamese: 39,418 (13.0% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 11,486 (3.8% of the Asian population)

Los Angeles, CA CSA
Asian population: 2,029,234 (11.4% of the total population), of which
Asian Indian: 141,395 (6.9% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 4,130
Cambodian: 42,905 (2.1% of the Asian population)
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 490,405 (24.1% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 470,748 (23.1% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 2,162
Indonesian: 18,789
Japanese: 147,683 (7.2% of the Asian population)
Korean: 303,064 (14.9% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 10,254
Malaysian: 1,235
Pakistani: 11,885
Sri Lankan: 5,671
Thai: 28,847 (1.4% of the Asian population)
Vietnamese: 274,629 (13.5% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 75,428 (3.7% of the Asian population)

New York CSA
Asian population:
1,862,496 (8.4% of the total population), of which
Asian Indian: 566,039 (30.3% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 36,216 (1.9% of the Asian population)
Cambodian: 4,710
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 628,646 (33.7% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 202,473 (10.8% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 0
Indonesian: 5,039
Japanese: 52,638 (2.8% of the Asian population)
Korean: 197,528 (10.6% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 2,331
Malaysian: 2,350
Pakistani: 54,653 (2.9% of the Asian population)
Sri Lankan: 6,019
Thai: 8,932
Vietnamese: 43,962 (2.3% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 51,230 (2.7% of the Asian population)

Sacramento CSA
Asian population: 254,679 (10.6% of the total population), of which
Asian Indian: 42,168 (16.5% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 82
Cambodian: 2,797 (1.0% of the Asian population)
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 50,138 (19.6% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 55,702 (21.8% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 23,592 (9.2% of the Asian population)
Indonesian: 473
Japanese: 15,813 (6.2% of the Asian population)
Korean: 11,670 (4.5% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 11,042 (4.3% of the Asian population)
Malaysian: 499
Pakistani: 3,783 (1.4% of the Asian population)
Sri Lankan: 332
Thai: 2,598 (1.0% of the Asian population)
Vietnamese: 23,397 (9.1% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 10,643 (4.1% of the Asian population)

Bay Area CSA
Asian population:
1,542,874 (21.2% of the total population), of which
Asian Indian: 208,854 (13.5% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 765
Cambodian: 11,357 (1.0% of the Asian population)
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 541,327 (35.1% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 368,098 (23.8% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 982 (9.2% of the Asian population)
Indonesian: 4,198
Japanese: 71,945 (4.6% of the Asian population)
Korean: 76,455 (4.9% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 11,350
Malaysian: 647
Pakistani: 9,106
Sri Lankan: 1,235
Thai:8,424
Vietnamese: 176,900 (11.4% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 51,231 (3.3% of the Asian population)

Seattle CSA
Asian population: 368,384 (9.1% of the total population)
Asian Indian: 39,481 (10.7% of the Asian population)
Bangladeshi: 159
Cambodian: 11,374 (3.0% of the Asian population)
Chinese (incl: Taiwanese): 74,954 (20.3% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 70,662 (19.1% of the Asian population)
Hmong: 1,687
Indonesian: 2,488
Japanese: 28,495 (7.7% of the Asian population)
Korean: 54,454 (14.7% of the Asian population)
Laotian: 7,558 (2.0% of the Asian population)
Malaysian: 181
Pakistani: 1,507
Sri Lankan: 460
Thai: 4,253 (1.1% of the Asian population)
Vietnamese: 53,351 (14.4% of the Asian population)
Other Asian: 17,320 (4.7% of the Asian population)

Vancouver CMA (File Not Found | Fichier non trouvé)
Asian population:
793,430 (37.4% of the total population), of which
Chinese: 402,000 (50.6% of the Asian population)
East Indian: 181,895 (22.9% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 83,760 (10.5% of the Asian population)
Korean: 46,040 (5.8% of the Asian population)
Japanese: 30,230 (3.8% of the Asian population)
Vietnamese: 26,115 (3.3% of the Asian population)
Punjabi: 13,735 (1.7% of the Asian population

Toronto CMA (File Not Found | Fichier non trouvé)
Asian population: 1,557,480 (30.4% of the total population), of which
Chinese: 531,060 (34.0% of the Asian population)
East Indian: 484,655 (31.1% of the Asian population)
Filipino: 181,330 (11.6% of the Asian population)
Sri Lanka: 80,615 (5.2% of the Asian population)
Pakistani: 76,105 (4.8% of the Asian population)
Korean: 57,235 (3.7% of the Asian population)
Vietnamese: 56,090 (3.6% of the Asian population)
Japanese: 23,310 (1.4% of the Asian population)

There you have it. A detailed chronicle of Asians in a selected portion of North American cities.

In case you were wondering, Vancouver and Toronto together make up 2/3rds of all the Asians in Canada (but both areas combined only make up 1/5 of Canada's population, going by CMA count).

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The Vancouver area has the best Chinese (especially Cantonese) culinary scene in North America. It got a major boost in the early 2000's with all the expats from Hong Kong, and then another boost before the 2010 Winter Olympics. It's very impressive considering that Vancouver is only a mid-sized metro area.
True that! The Chinese food I had in Vancouver was really freakin' good. The problem with Chinese food here in the United States is that a lot of it is extremely Americanized, and far away from the food they actually would serve for ethnic Chinese people in China. Vancouver doesn't NEARLY have that same problem, since many of the Chinese residents have come in the last 10-15 years. The sushi I had (this restaurant on Granville St.) was really really good, although I was puzzled that they had "California rolls" and "BC rolls" (both tasty!) I didn't have time to try Indian food in Vancouver, but I could imagine it to be very good as well.

Canada's immigration policies favor those who come from the British Commonwealth (includes all of South Asia) and skilled workers (a huge chunk from Asia as a whole). United States immigration policy..well....umm...yeah. I stopped trying to make sense of it a long time ago. It's pretty cool (or bad, depending on how you want to look at it) that Canada went from less than 2% Asian in the 1980s to around 11% Asian today. The only other place in North America that has underwent such a transformation in a short period of time is....DRUMROLL....CALIFORNIA!

People understate how much of an effect Asians had on California, and pretty much look at it as ONLY Hispanic. It is true that the Hispanic presence here is extremely heavy, but the Asian history (not including Native Americans, of course) dates back to the 1850s. In fact, amongst the first "Europeans' who "discovered" California was a Filipino (or Luzon Indian, for history purists) sailor who was with the Spanish. California, in fact, has a larger % of Asians in its population than Canada does (13% in California, 11% in Canada). We'll see whether or not that continues in the future, but I just thought that was an interesting parallel.

However, California and US cities as a whole obviously have immigrants coming in from elsewhere, making Asians a smaller % of the population than in Canada. But, the Bay Area has had the longest continual presence of Asians in North America (again, not counting Native Americans/First Nations) since SF was founded as a city (Filipinos were amongst those who manned the Presidio in San Francisco, then obviously the Chinese came as part of the Gold Rush). Interesting stuff!

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Unread 08-29-2010, 07:30 PM
 
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In order

1. San Francisco bay area,California USA(I picked this on the poll)
2. Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
3. NYC, New York USA
4. Toronto, Ontario Canada
5. Honolulu, Hawaii USA(But technically its not on the North American contienent)
6. Seattle, Washington USA/Los Angeles, California USA/ Chicago Illinois USA tied
7. Washington D.C. area USA/Houston Texas USA/ Boston, Massachusetts USA/ Montreal Quebec Canada/ San Diego, California USA/Portland Oregon USA
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Im surprised Seattle wasnt an option on the poll. If Northern Virginia, Sacramento, and Los Angeles were on the poll, Seattle should have been too.
Seattle actually has roughly the same percentage of Asians as Los Angeles (13-18% of total population).

What Lifeshadower said: "I'm surprised Seattle wasn't a choice here. The east side of the metro (Bellevue, Kirkland, Redmond) has large amounts of Chinese, Indians, and Japanese, while Seattle proper has almost every single Asian nationality represented, with a really LARGE representation of Vietnamese, Filipinos, Laotions, Khmer, and Thai. It almost felt like being in the Bay Area..except more green!"

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Unread 08-29-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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LMAO are these results a joke?
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Unread 08-29-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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LMAO are these results a joke?
Why? What do you THINK it should be? As an Asian American, I think it sounds about right. The Bay Area has the LONGEST history of contemporary Asian settlement in the lower 48 of the United States, and the largest proportion of Asians in the continental United States (city of SF itself is 33% AAPI, Bay Area is around 22% AAPI)

However, I do think Honululu should get more votes, considering that it has the highest percentage of AAPI's (obviously, its a Pacific Island city). People just seem to forget about the place. Kind of sad, really.
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Unread 08-29-2010, 08:31 PM
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the thread in general is a joke for reasons that i already listed.
honolulu should definitely have more votes but its stacked in the bay area's favor. an entire metro area vs. 1/5th of a city, vs 5 other complete cities and the top half of one state (ok i'll give in to the fact that he/she put a county up there, but still).
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Unread 08-29-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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Either way, I still think SF would've came out on top. This is a question that is in SF's favor, no matter which way you group cities or metros.
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Unread 08-29-2010, 09:32 PM
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thats not necessarily true. nyc vs sf would have been interesting (iirc it was already done. i clearly remember posting pics of jackson heights, chinatown in flushing and chinatown in manhattan in a thread and it wasn't this thread so there had to be another)...

iirc, sf has one set of asians and its like nyc has the other set. it became asians from one part vs asians from another part, so to speak.
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Unread 08-29-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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thats not necessarily true. nyc vs sf would have been interesting (iirc it was already done. i clearly remember posting pics of jackson heights, chinatown in flushing and chinatown in manhattan in a thread and it wasn't this thread so there had to be another)...

iirc, sf has one set of asians and its like nyc has the other set. it became asians from one part vs asians from another part, so to speak.
I think overall, SF has the more diverse Asian population. Because I don't think there is a particular ethnicity of Asians in NYC, that couldn't be found in SF, but vice versa, I think SF has certain Pacific Islanders that are not in abundance in NYC. I think.
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Unread 08-29-2010, 09:41 PM
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it was about best subculture, tho. like enclaves and stuff. you there is stuff in both areas that you can't find in either area.

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although nyc's lack of pacific islanders was brought up.
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