Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-22-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: US
269 posts, read 666,687 times
Reputation: 83

Advertisements

I have been researching what cities are best for creative people. I found a top ten list from BusinessWeek.com and Sperling's Best Places. Let me know what you think - any other suggestions for top cities for "creative" people? I have had by eye on Nashville and maybe LA. Interesting that Austin failed to make the list - it seems to magically make every top ten list.

Article:
The top 10 cities were derived from metro areas across the country that has the highest concentration of artistic establishments. Sperling's BestPlaces calculated this by means of the art and culture Index that took into the number and size of artistic resources such as museums, philharmonic orchestras, theater troupes, library resources and college arts.

The selection of cities was also based on a low cost of living although in some metros using the cost of living index that considered the cost of housing, food, transportation, etc. Some cities where the average living cost was above the national average of 100 were included because of the other favorable factors such as number of art establishments and art resources, diversity and age of population. All these three indexes had the maximum score of 100.

The ten best U.S. cities that are ideal for artists which offer ample artistic resources, the presence of a young, diverse population and a relatively of living are:

1. Los Angeles, CA: Los Angeles tops the list with 56.105 art establishments per 100,000 people and 15.3 % of population age 25-34.

2. Santa Fe, NM: Santa Fe has 36.449 art establishments per 100,000 people and 11.85 % of population age 25-34.

3. Carson City, NV: Carson City has 24.701 art establishments per 100,000 people and 12.1 % of population age 25-34.

4. New York City, NY: New York City has 14.852 art establishments per 100,000 people and 15.2 % of population age 25-34.

5. Kingston, NY: Kingston has 13.128 art establishments per 100,000 people and 12.24 % of population age 25-34.

6. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA: Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura has 12.649 art establishments per 100,000 people and 12.89 % of population age 25-34.

7. Nashville, TN: Nashville has 11.443 art establishments per 100,000 people and 14.74 % of population age 25-34.

8. Boulder, CO: Boulder has 11.076 art establishments per 100,000 people and 17.33 % of population age 25-34.

9. San Francisco, CA: San Francisco has 9.682 art establishments per 100,000 people and 15.75 % of population age 25-34.

10. Nassau-Suffolk County, NY: Nassau-Suffolk County has 8.943 art establishments per 100,000 people and 11.52 % of population age 25-34.


Read more: Top 10 U.s. Cities For Creative People
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-22-2010, 10:17 AM
 
2,563 posts, read 6,055,477 times
Reputation: 879
Well I haven't read the article yet but am quite shocked to see Miami and Minneapolis not on the list. Miami should 100% be on the list I have first hand experience and most lists I think would verify that, while I've not visited Minneapolis I have a lot of designer friends from there and they speak very highly of it. But then I don't know if Minneapolis should definitely be in the top 10 but I certainly think its up there.

I'll have to read the criteria though and then revise my comments
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: West Midtown Atlanta
364 posts, read 717,181 times
Reputation: 158
@ DunderMifflin

Scranton, PA?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 10:32 AM
 
2,563 posts, read 6,055,477 times
Reputation: 879
Ah I see having now read the article my conclusion is its a load of garbage.

There are so many more creative fields it completely ignores. Like Architecture, Advertising/Marketing, Industrial Design, Web Design, Graphic Design, Video Game Creation, CGI in general, Fashion Industry, Poetry, Writing, so on....

What a terrible terrible marketing tool to advertise a few cities. Part of the criteria is libraries - really? Libraries is a major factor in determining how creative people are. I think most creative people would find alternative ways of figuring things out - like say, the internet.

And to end with the tagline:
"If you are an artist, then these U.S. cities offer the best options to start your art profession or career."

Is even more rubbish. The best options are the ones with advertising firms, lots of small business startups, real-estate development, a strong fine arts section, lots of galleries, and a strong it industry. I really can't get over the fact they ignored advertising which is probably the single best way for artists to make rent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: US
269 posts, read 666,687 times
Reputation: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zone2flyboy View Post
@ DunderMifflin

Scranton, PA?
Haha just a fan of the office...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: US
269 posts, read 666,687 times
Reputation: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by EndersDrift View Post
Ah I see having now read the article my conclusion is its a load of garbage.

There are so many more creative fields it completely ignores. Like Architecture, Advertising/Marketing, Industrial Design, Web Design, Graphic Design, Video Game Creation, CGI in general, Fashion Industry, Poetry, Writing, so on....

What a terrible terrible marketing tool to advertise a few cities. Part of the criteria is libraries - really? Libraries is a major factor in determining how creative people are. I think most creative people would find alternative ways of figuring things out - like say, the internet.

And to end with the tagline:
"If you are an artist, then these U.S. cities offer the best options to start your art profession or career."

Is even more rubbish. The best options are the ones with advertising firms, lots of small business startups, real-estate development, a strong fine arts section, lots of galleries, and a strong it industry. I really can't get over the fact they ignored advertising which is probably the single best way for artists to make rent.
I think gauging how the city demands or doesn't demand artistic establishments is helpful. Say these small business start-ups are concentrated in one city but they have no art museums - that says something. Creative people who are interested in fine art will patronize fine art establishments and you can therefore gauge the interest in artistic related venues. I think libraries are very necessary and helpful.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 11:02 AM
 
2,563 posts, read 6,055,477 times
Reputation: 879
Quote:
Originally Posted by dundermifflin View Post
I think gauging how the city demands or doesn't demand artistic establishments is helpful. Say these small business start-ups are concentrated in one city but they have no art museums - that says something. Creative people who are interested in fine art will patronize fine art establishments and you can therefore gauge the interest in artistic related venues. I think libraries are very necessary and helpful.
Are you a professional designer?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
3,717 posts, read 8,180,281 times
Reputation: 892
These lists never make much sense to me, I can see LA, NY, and SF being up there but seriously? Santa Fe? Carson City? Boulder? etc. These lists always seem to pick underdogs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 04:54 PM
 
4,692 posts, read 9,299,122 times
Reputation: 1330
Quote:
Originally Posted by clean_polo View Post
These lists never make much sense to me, I can see LA, NY, and SF being up there but seriously? Santa Fe? Carson City? Boulder? etc. These lists always seem to pick underdogs.
Santa Fe definitely. If you've been there before your opinion would be way different. It thrives of local artistic expression like crazy. Creative/artsy people are not confined to larger cities.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-22-2010, 05:52 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
12,384 posts, read 28,496,781 times
Reputation: 5879
Quote:
Originally Posted by EndersDrift View Post
Ah I see having now read the article my conclusion is its a load of garbage.

There are so many more creative fields it completely ignores. Like Architecture, Advertising/Marketing, Industrial Design, Web Design, Graphic Design, Video Game Creation, CGI in general, Fashion Industry, Poetry, Writing, so on....

What a terrible terrible marketing tool to advertise a few cities. Part of the criteria is libraries - really? Libraries is a major factor in determining how creative people are. I think most creative people would find alternative ways of figuring things out - like say, the internet.

And to end with the tagline:
"If you are an artist, then these U.S. cities offer the best options to start your art profession or career."

Is even more rubbish. The best options are the ones with advertising firms, lots of small business startups, real-estate development, a strong fine arts section, lots of galleries, and a strong it industry. I really can't get over the fact they ignored advertising which is probably the single best way for artists to make rent.
on libraries, the internet is actually pretty low quality for information... library is still the choice du jour b/c of the books and the journal access they are usually subscribed to if you login with their computers... it is also a good setting to get work done.

also not sure how some of the smaller places are on there...there just aren't enough of them there #'s wise...even if percentage wise... big cities generally have the funding to supply artists/writers etc. as well...you know, when you want to be an eating artist, instead of a starving artist..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:03 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top