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Tampa Bay MSA + Orlando MSA = 2,733,761 + 2,082,421 = 4,816,182
Pretty much nearly 5 million people.
Anyways, that shouldn't really matter though, Buffalo with a market of 1.2 million people can support an NFL team.
If Orlando wants an NFL (like really wants one) it can support it. I think it can do a better job than Jacksonville at least.
But that's only if the city "wants it" and has a high demand for it.
Exactly what I was saying. Its not the proximity to Tampa it is the city demand for it. Which is why Orlando can support an NFL team more than Jacksonville. MLB probably not but you never know. just because people in Tampa dont support their team does not mean the People of Central Florida wont. They sure as hell support the Magic selling out every game. So I agree.
If they were not large enough markets they would have lost their teams which no CITY in Florida has ever done. So dont give me that speech again
You really don't know much about professional sports. It's not like franchises are like "Heck, let's not worry about our agreements and everything, Orlando is too small, the Magic gotta go!"
Keep in mind FLAboy that MOST of Florida's teams have been around less than 25 years, you know before you were even born.
Lightning were #21 and Panthers #25 in attendance out of 30 NHL teams
Dolphins were #19, Buccaneers # 27, Jaguars #30 (ha, city of 800,000) out of 32 NFL teams
Rays are #23 and Marlins #29 out of 30 MLB teams this year.
Magic were #17 and Heat were #15 out of 30 NBA teams last year.
Florida is oversaturated, and has crappy sports fans. Heat and Magic have both been successful, as well as Marlins and Rays and still empty seats.
There is already talks of having the Jaguars go to LA, and the Lightning and Panthers have been a fail, and wouldn't be surprised if they moved north soon.
The Rays have already changed their name, as well as the Marlins.
The Buccaneers are garbage and the Jaguars are too.
I don't get why you're arguing. Professional Franchises aren't stupid. As well as the leagues, they understand markets and saturation, and yes, Florida is oversaturated.
PS, My respective MN teams were - Wild 10th, Vikings 10th, Twins 6th, and TWolves 25th (No Garnett, and it's hockey country, people hate the Wolves)
You really don't know much about professional sports. It's not like franchises are like "Heck, let's not worry about our agreements and everything, Orlando is too small, the Magic gotta go!"
Keep in mind FLAboy that MOST of Florida's teams have been around less than 25 years, you know before you were even born.
Lightning were #21 and Panthers #25 in attendance out of 30 NHL teams
Dolphins were #19, Buccaneers # 27, Jaguars #30 (ha, city of 800,000) out of 32 NFL teams
Rays are #23 and Marlins #29 out of 30 MLB teams this year.
Magic were #17 and Heat were #15 out of 30 NBA teams last year.
Florida is oversaturated, and has crappy sports fans. Heat and Magic have both been successful, as well as Marlins and Rays and still empty seats.
There is already talks of having the Jaguars go to LA, and the Lightning and Panthers have been a fail, and wouldn't be surprised if they moved north soon.
The Rays have already changed their name, as well as the Marlins.
The Buccaneers are garbage and the Jaguars are too.
I don't get why you're arguing. Professional Franchises aren't stupid. As well as the leagues, they understand markets and saturation, and yes, Florida is oversaturated.
Guy nobody asked you for your opinion. I know more about sports than you and the point I made was valid and accurate regardless how the hell you feel about it.
You people always "Florida This" Florida That ****.
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There is already talks of having the Jaguars go to LA, and the Lightning and Panthers have been a fail, and wouldn't be surprised if they moved north soon.
That's just a theory/speculation. There are many aspects to it which prevent that team from going to LA. A lot having to do with LA's top advisors and how they are not eligible for the team, and a lot having to do with increasing tax when the economy is terrible there. Plus the owner for the Jaguars and what he thinks of the relocation.
You don't just get up and relocate because "a city needs a team" it's up to the owner strictly.
Anyways we'll see how things go. LA is bound to get a team soon, but don't count your bet on Jacksonville's team. San Diego has a better chance of relocating there, despite being a more successful team.
Guy nobody asked you for your opinion. I know more about sports than you and the point I made was valid and accurate regardless how the hell you feel about it.
You people always "Florida This" Florida That ****.
Are you serious? It's a public forum, that's the whole ideaology behind this website.
And, cool? I guess you think you know more about 'sports'?
That's just a theory/speculation. There are many aspects to it which prevent that team from going to LA. A lot having to do with LA's top advisors and how they are not eligible for the team, and a lot having to do with increasing tax when the economy is terrible there. Plus the owner for the Jaguars and what he thinks of the relocation.
You don't just get up and relocate because "a city needs a team" it's up to the owner strictly.
Anyways we'll see how things go. LA is bound to get a team soon, but don't count your bet on Jacksonville's team. San Diego has a better chance of relocating there, despite being a more successful team.
Ok, so you're agruing my comment of "There are talks of Jaguars moving to LA""?
You're seriously arguing that? There really have been 'talks' about them moving there. So, not too sure what you're trying to argue.
It's not a pissing match dude, I get that speculation, I'm not an idiot, but the Jaguars have been speculated about moving west, and that's a fact and you cannot argue that.
Sure, is it feasible? Is it going to happen? Are there intanglibles? Sure yes, but that doesn't mean that the Jaguars weren't in the LA relocation speculation.
Plus, I'm from Minneapolis. You don't need to explain a thing about relocation. Ever heard of the Minnesota North Stars? Go study up and let me know what you found out about that move.
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