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Kind of my point on why MSA is too large; I was looking for a better way to compare city population not commuting population and that's why it seems MSA is too large to compare cities
No because the commuting population tells more of the story of what really going on. If the MSA is bigger, than the MSA is bigger! Sunbelt cities don't have bigger MSAs because it's nice, ) there population is outward. Again no major city is stilling from Philly if New York was really integrated in the same social commuting region as Philly, it would be the New York- Philadelphia Metroplex. There not enough social and economic integration to be one region. Atlanta is not cheating it's well noted especially by bashing on these threads Atlanta sprawls. The MSA is not misleading, the city limits population is! because the city limit size does not represent the way metro is built.
Kind of my point on why MSA is too large; I was looking for a better way to compare city population not commuting population and that's why it seems MSA is too large to compare cities
Based on this, I would say that Urban area is the measurement youre looking for.
See your trying to determine density that flawed because some cities are built out.
No I am trying to find a comparator of urban core of the cities; would you consider Roswell the urban core? But Midtown, or Buckhead, yes likely.
For the same reason to me KOP in Philly or the Galleria area in Houston don't seem like an urban core so I am looking for another metric to compare that doesn't take boundaries into account, so I guess yes density is maybe the proxy and urbanized area (>1,00 ppsm) metrics seem to sparce and a better estimate of suburban expanse
Well urban area includes continuous zips over 1,000 ppsm; a proxy for suburban not urban
Then what youre looking for is a method thats biased toward northern cities that are more dense.
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) there population is outward. Again no major city is stilling from Philly if New York was really integrated in the same social commuting region as Philly, it would be the New York- Philadelphia Metroplex. There not enough social and economic integration to be one region. Atlanta is not cheating it's well noted especially by bashing on these threads Atlanta sprawls. The MSA is not misleading, the city limits population is! because the city limit size does not represent the way metro is built.
