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View Poll Results: Is DC a Northeast city?
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Yes
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No
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04-28-2010, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey
Sometime over the next 2 decades , it will change form the Boston-Wash to the Boston-Charlotte. The Majority of New Developments will be centered around Railways and other alt Transit corridors. 
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I think you are right on this!
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04-28-2010, 02:37 PM
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i think people need to make a distinction here:
while washington d.c. is undoubtedly an important component of the bos-wash corridor, that by itself doesn't mean that it's northeastern. it's kind of analogous to buffalo's relationship with cleveland, detroit, and toledo - all of these cities are part of the great lakes/rust belt corridor, but the latter three cities are clearly midwestern while buffalo is not.
in other words, it's possible for a city to share some commonalities with other cities along a commercial/industrial corridor while still remaining part of a separate region.
in my opinion, washington d.c. is not genuinely northeastern or northern in character despite having some similarities with the rest of the bos-wash corridor. at the same time, it isn't truly southern, either - at least nowadays (culturally speaking).
the correct answer is that d.c. is a mid-atlantic city - not completely northern or southern.
before i continue, i should clarify something. to me, "mid-atlantic" only refers to the disputed areas that have some overlap between northern and southern cultural elements, but are not indisputably tied to one or the other. i do not consider "true" northern cities like philly, trenton, newark, or nyc as part of the mid-atlantic, despite what the u.s. census bureau says. as far as i'm concerned, pennsylvania, new jersey, and new york are part of a different region than dc/maryland/virginia/delaware, although the differences are shades of gray rather than black and white.
for lack of a better term, i'd separate the "north atlantic" states (PA/NJ/NY) that are indisputably northern/northeastern in location and culture from the mid-atlantic ones (MD/DE/DC/VA).
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04-28-2010, 03:18 PM
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So I think I get this feeling... so let me sum it up
DC is historically and geographically southen... so it's supposed to be southern, but it's just not that southern anymore so it's not quite southern
DC is really close to the northeast and fits right in with the Bos-Was corridor but there's still elements of southern culture and that matter of geography and history so it's not quite northeastern
However it is a mid-atlantic state and nobody seems to dispute that...
So is it fair to say that it is ambiguous wheter DC is the north or the south, but it is definitely mid-atlantic? Does anybody disagree with anything I put? Here are they territory maps below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_United_States
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04-28-2010, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by theATLien
So I think I get this feeling... so let me sum it up
DC is historically and geographically southen... so it's supposed to be southern, but it's just not that southern anymore so it's not quite southern
DC is really close to the northeast and fits right in with the Bos-Was corridor but there's still elements of southern culture and that matter of geography and history so it's not quite northeastern
However it is a mid-atlantic state and nobody seems to dispute that...
So is it fair to say that it is ambiguous wheter DC is the north or the south, but it is definitely mid-atlantic? Does anybody disagree with anything I put?
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Mostly true. However, I don't know if anyone's demonstrated what homegrown southern culture is still left in D.C.
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04-28-2010, 03:45 PM
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I can name quite a few...
Some people have demonstrated earlier there there is a still a slight southern drawl in the accents of some of the people there... In some weird northern southern mix at lot of times. It's not deep, but it's not that deep all the time here in Atlanta or Charlotte either (among natives not including the people that relocated).
Another thing, if it's not taken the wrong way... having a huge African American population is another trait of a southern city. Let's not forget half of A.A.'s live in the south. Georgia has more A.A. than California. When I travelled there a lot of the people did cook and eat soul foul. THis may not be overwhelming evidence that it's a southern city, but it's enough to say there are at least some vestiges of southern culture left in D.C.
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04-28-2010, 03:52 PM
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Location: Cordova, TN
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My definition of dc is a mid-atlantic city, neither northern or southern but with elements of both mixed in, presently leaning towards an overall greater northern influence. Had there been a poll option for mid-atlantic it would've gotten my vote. 
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04-28-2010, 06:29 PM
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Location: metro ATL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itscordell
my definition of dc is a mid-atlantic city, neither northern or southern but with elements of both mixed in, presently leaning towards an overall greater northern influence. Had there been a poll option for mid-atlantic it would've gotten my vote. 
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+1
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04-28-2010, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pbergen
i think people need to make a distinction here:
while washington d.c. is undoubtedly an important component of the bos-wash corridor, that by itself doesn't mean that it's northeastern. it's kind of analogous to buffalo's relationship with cleveland, detroit, and toledo - all of these cities are part of the great lakes/rust belt corridor, but the latter three cities are clearly midwestern while buffalo is not.
in other words, it's possible for a city to share some commonalities with other cities along a commercial/industrial corridor while still remaining part of a separate region.
in my opinion, washington d.c. is not genuinely northeastern or northern in character despite having some similarities with the rest of the bos-wash corridor. at the same time, it isn't truly southern, either - at least nowadays (culturally speaking).
the correct answer is that d.c. is a mid-atlantic city - not completely northern or southern.
before i continue, i should clarify something. to me, "mid-atlantic" only refers to the disputed areas that have some overlap between northern and southern cultural elements, but are not indisputably tied to one or the other. i do not consider "true" northern cities like philly, trenton, newark, or nyc as part of the mid-atlantic, despite what the u.s. census bureau says. as far as i'm concerned, pennsylvania, new jersey, and new york are part of a different region than dc/maryland/virginia/delaware, although the differences are shades of gray rather than black and white.
for lack of a better term, i'd separate the "north atlantic" states (PA/NJ/NY) that are indisputably northern/northeastern in location and culture from the mid-atlantic ones (MD/DE/DC/VA).
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By far, one of the best posts on this thread. I agree 1000%!
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04-28-2010, 09:11 PM
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Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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If you consider DC a Northeastern city, please ask yourself, how is the culture there resembling a city like Boston?
If you consider it a Southern city, ask yourself how DC resembles Atlanta.
The truth is, culturally it is none of the above.
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04-28-2010, 09:48 PM
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Location: nyc/philly/pg county.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendu
I voted no. DC feels like a laid-back southern city even compared to Baltimore, a short train ride away.
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lol what the heck lol, how does it feel like a southern city? dc in no type of shape or form fits a southern city.
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