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View Poll Results: Which is the most culturally Southern?
Houston 27 47.37%
Oklahoma City 4 7.02%
Louisville 23 40.35%
Washington, DC 2 3.51%
Miami 1 1.75%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-24-2010, 09:16 PM
 
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houston is not a "border" anything. north, south, east, and west of the city is the south. period.

let's break it down: north of houston, you'll run into east texas...THE DEEP SOUTH; south of houston is galveston which was the largest exporter of cotton during the confederacy...THE SOUTH; east of houston you have southeast texas where there's a VERY strong southern and even cajun culture; west of houston you have towns like brenham and sealy which are also southern...THE SOUTH

greater houston is completely surrounded by southern culture, so i don't understand how this is still an issue
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:24 PM
 
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houston is not a "border" anything. north, south, east, and west of the city is the south. period.

let's break it down: north of houston, you'll run into east texas...THE DEEP SOUTH; south of houston is galveston which was the largest exporter of cotton during the confederacy...THE SOUTH; east of houston you have southeast texas where there's a VERY strong southern and even cajun culture; west of houston you have towns like brenham and sealy which are also southern...THE SOUTH

greater houston is completely surrounded by southern culture, so i don't understand how this is still an issue
I picked Houston because it's in Texas, which is a BORDER STATE. That's the reasoning behind all of the cities listed on the poll. But it probably would have been a bit more interesting to pick San Antonio or Austin.
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:33 PM
 
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I picked Houston because it's in Texas, which is a BORDER STATE. That's the reasoning behind all of the cities listed on the poll. But it probably would have been a bit more interesting to pick San Antonio or Austin.
Yeah San Antonio or Austin would have been much more interesting. But I do see why you put Houston because some on here do disagree with Houston being a straight Southern city.
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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houston just doesn't fit in with the rest of this list. plain and simple

yes, the borders of the south and the southwest meet in texas, but houston sits in the part of the state that is thoroughly the south. you can't just assume every city in texas is going to be "border south"

especially considering the fact that east texas has more in common with the southeast than it could ever have in common with the rest of the state. parts of ET are closer to the capital of mississippi (jackson) than they are to austin
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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Again, I think it fits perfectly with Miami from look and feel and I'm coming from straight experience spending significant time in both places.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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Sorry, I couldn't resist, LOL.

If anything, this should prove to be an interesting discussion since there are several elements which could be said to define cultural Southernness. All of these cities are geographically Southern and have historical Southern influences, but are great examples of contemporary cultural cross-pollination because of their border locations.
Because the south isn't Monolithic what are you basing southern culture on Memphis/Mississippi Delta, Ozark culture, culture of New Orleans, culture of Nashville, Low country of GA and SC. The New south region, The Black belt region, upper south culture what? before we even start.

Houston actually have Creole influences
Oklahoma City has Native American influences from the southeast
Miami has Afro West Indian influences which are like the low country
Louisville is the upper south

DC is not southern to me, the city was planned to be at a location between the North and South, and it seem that historically DC was consider southern because besides New Orleans the south historically didn’t have that many major cities but 2010 it’s pointless. Time have change, the south is actually the most populous region defined by the US census. DC has nothing to do with the south to me.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:43 PM
 
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Houston and Louisville..

Oklahoma city to an extent....

DC and Miami are not southern in my opinion (culturally)
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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Because the south isn't Monolithic what are you basing southern culture on Memphis/Mississippi Delta, Ozark culture, culture of New Orleans, culture of Nashville, Low country of GA and SC. The New south region, The Black belt region, upper south culture what? before we even start.

Houston actually have Creole influences
Oklahoma City has Native American influences from the southeast
Miami has Afro West Indian influences which are like the low country
Louisville is the upper south

DC is not southern to me, the city was planned to be at a location between the North and South, and it seem that historically DC was consider southern because besides New Orleans the south historically didn’t have that many major cities but 2010 it’s pointless. Time have change, the south is actually the most populous region defined by the US census. DC has nothing to do with the south to me.

San Antonio has alot of spanish influence
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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Houston and Louisville..

Oklahoma city to an extent....

DC and Miami are not southern in my opinion (culturally)
There is no monolithic southern culture so when ever someone say a city isn't culturally southern, it would never make any sense.

and again Afro West Indian culture is like Gullah culture in GA and SC.

but DC on the other hand I don't even consider it geographically southern.
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:39 PM
 
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San Antonio has alot of spanish influence
I Agree Texas and Florida has more but spain also control once parts of Georgia through Louisiana and etc.

Spanish missions in Georgia (U.S. state)

And at one point almost half of Alabama and Mississippi was once part of Spanish Florida.

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File:West Florida Map 1767.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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