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View Poll Results: Which do you consider to be 3rd Coast?
Texas to Florida's West Coast 144 64.00%
Chicago & the Great Lakes Region 81 36.00%
Voters: 225. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-16-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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The Great Lakes are inland seas. Seas have coasts.
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Old 06-16-2010, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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I can respect that; I had just always known seas as a large body of water usually mostly surrounded by land ,but connects to the ocean. Kinda like a gulf.
A gulf is a really big bay, not a sea.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in TN
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^ Yeah, because thats usually what makes a coast. It was just a question by the way. When people think of coasts they usually think of beaches.
Biga** beaches?
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Lake_Michigan

Biga** waves
icy_surfer (http://www.lakesuperiorphoto.com/blog/icy_surfer_superior.jpg - broken link)
surfriderlakemichigan
lighthouse

Biga** boats
worldofstock.com freighter
theunitedwayblog saginawcruise
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edwardlryerson270704-1-082
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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A gulf is a really big bay, not a sea.
Sometimes.

I really don't know how they come up with what is considered a sea and what is just a bay or Gulf. The Arabian Sea is a perfect example, right next to the Bay of Bengal. Ones a bay the other a sea.

Then you have the ones that don't look like they are any different than the ocean that surrounds them, like the Coral Sea, or the Tasman Sea.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Those are the smaller ones. You included a photo of the Ryerson, which is one of my favorite boats on the lakes. Nice lines for a freighter.

Here are a couple of the big boats.

Paul R Tregurtha 1013' in length; 68,000 long tons carrying capacity.


Edwin H Gott. 1004' long; 74,100 long tons capacity.


These images are from boatnerd.
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Does the Gulf have this?
Is this going to turn into a picture war now?
On the Gulf
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Sikeston, MO
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So if calling the Great Lakes "lakes" (which is what they are) is supposedly trying to diminish them, can we all agree that calling them "seas" is trying to overhype them? Your lakes look awesome, and I'd love to visit them eventually. Until then, I'm stuck down here on the Gulf COAST. I've lived in the Midwest all my life until the past month, and neither myself nor anybody I know has ever referred to the Great Lakes as anything other than lakes, nor have we referred to their shoreline as a coast.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Haven't put much thought into it, but since I'm technically a Texan... I'll go with the Gulf Coast.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in TN
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Coast vs. shore

So going to the Jersey shore is incorrect? (Does MTV know this?)
And the California Shore and Beach Preservation Society?
Offshore fishing in Florida? Cape Canaveral National Seashore?
Offshore drilling in the Gulf should be called offcoast drilling?

According to nationalatlas.gov both terms mean the same thing, only differing in degree.
Coastline – The general outline of the seacoast
Shoreline – A detailed outline of the seacoast

Again, it seems that it is impossible to find one clear cut answer, there seem to be many definitions of seas and lakes. I could spend all day finding definitions to support both sides of the argument. Who's to say which one is correct?

Landforms Glossary - EnchantedLearning.com
A sea is a large body of salty water that is often connected to an ocean. A sea may be partly or completely surrounded by land.
and

A lake is a large body of water surrounded by land on all sides. Really huge lakes are often called seas.~


sea: Definition from Answers.com
  1. A tract of water within an ocean.
  2. A relatively large body of salt water completely or partially enclosed by land.
  3. A relatively large landlocked body of fresh water.

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Old 06-16-2010, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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So if calling the Great Lakes "lakes" (which is what they are) is supposedly trying to diminish them, can we all agree that calling them "seas" is trying to overhype them? Your lakes look awesome, and I'd love to visit them eventually. Until then, I'm stuck down here on the Gulf COAST. I've lived in the Midwest all my life until the past month, and neither myself nor anybody I know has ever referred to the Great Lakes as anything other than lakes, nor have we referred to their shoreline as a coast.
They're lakes AND seas. I've lived in the Great Lakes region for all but several years of my life, and I have heard it called a "Coast". Ever heard of the "North Coast"? look it up on google maps, there's hundreds of different companies and business, the majority in the Northern Ohio area, that have "North Coast" in their name.

Coast and shore pretty much mean the same thing and are interchangeable. You can look at nothing but reliable and legit sites for definitions and get different answers.
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Coast vs. shore

So going to the Jersey shore is incorrect? (Does MTV know this?)
And the California Shore and Beach Preservation Society?
Offshore fishing in Florida? Cape Canaveral National Seashore?
Offshore drilling in the Gulf should be called offcoast drilling?

According to nationalatlas.gov both terms mean the same thing, only differing in degree.
Coastline The general outline of the seacoast
Shoreline A detailed outline of the seacoast

Again, it seems that it is impossible to find one clear cut answer, there seem to be many definitions of seas and lakes. I could spend all day finding definitions to support both sides of the argument. Who's to say which one is correct?

Landforms Glossary - EnchantedLearning.com
A sea is a large body of salty water that is often connected to an ocean. A sea may be partly or completely surrounded by land.
and

A lake is a large body of water surrounded by land on all sides. Really huge lakes are often called seas.~


sea: Definition from Answers.com
  1. A tract of water within an ocean.
  2. A relatively large body of salt water completely or partially enclosed by land.
  3. A relatively large landlocked body of fresh water.

Exactly. This is what the gulf Coast people don't seem to understand.
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