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Yes, well that is the reality of the nation in which we live.
Americans are not city dwellers-they are suburbanites who identify to their principal city. And CSAs further explain the true size of the interconnectivity in these huge areas-which all 4 of these cities are now.
Do you believe that all of the Bay Areas identifies with SF as it's undisputed principal city? My aunt and uncle in Palo Alto do not.
SF City has a larger GDP than Washington City and Boston City.
Do you believe that all of the Bay Areas identifies with SF as it's undisputed principal city? My aunt and uncle in Palo Alto do not.
SF City has a larger GDP than Washington City and Boston City.
I didnt say SF is the undisputed Principal City. This is the Bay Area we're talking about-and everyone thinks their neck of the Bay is the center of gravity.
But SF is the most prominent city in the region and most people will admit that much.
As far as city gdps-I read it in a report several years ago. bea.gov doesnt release county level gdps like they used to so I can't find it.
I didnt say SF is the undisputed Principal City. This is the Bay Area we're talking about-and everyone thinks their neck of the Bay is the center of gravity.
But SF is the most prominent city in the region and most people will admit that much.
As far as city gdps-I read it in a report several years ago. bea.gov doesnt release county level gdps like they used to so I can't find it.
SF is #1 in everything in the Bay Area except arguably the economy where Silicon Valley puts up strong #'s. As far as I know though San Jose isn't exactly a center of high arts or cultural institutions or a political strong hold...
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SF is #1 in everything in the Bay Area except arguably the economy where Silicon Valley puts up strong #'s. As far as I know though San Jose isn't exactly a center of high arts or cultural institutions or a political strong hold...
Sports goes to Oakland too, NBA. The Raiders popularity is just slightly less than 49ers and Athletics are less popular than the Giants. San Jose does have more comfortable housing, and the public school system is arguably better there than San Francisco.
SF is #1 in everything in the Bay Area except arguably the economy where Silicon Valley puts up strong #'s. As far as I know though San Jose isn't exactly a center of high arts or cultural institutions or a political strong hold...
the discourse we were having was specifically economics. Montclair basically said dc sf and chi were all almost equal while Boston was a distant fourth. I just have never seen any info backing this up.
the discourse we were having was specifically economics. Montclair basically said dc sf and chi were all almost equal while Boston was a distant fourth. I just have never seen any info backing this up.
As far as CSA gross products, yes its true.
Boston has a larger population, but the Bay Area has a considerably larger GDP, and Chicago has a considerably larger population than either DC or SF but DC has a bigger GDP whilst SF is just shy of Chicagoland.
Combined Statistical Areas by Total Gross Product, 2008
3. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA $533.542 Billion
Baltimore-Towson, MD Metro Area $133,012
Lexington Park, MD Micro Area
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metro Area $395,747
Winchester, VA-WV Metro Area $4,783
4. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA $526.895 Billion Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI Metro Area $520,672
Kankakee-Bradley, IL Metro Area $3,094
Michigan City-La Porte, IN Metro Area $3,336
5. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $508.418 Billion Napa, CA Metro Area $7,434
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA Metro Area $310,825
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA Metro Area $146,687
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA Metro Area $9,903
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA Metro Area $20,229
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA Metro Area $13,340
6. Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA $413.930 Billion
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH Metro Area $299,590
Concord, NH Micro Area
Manchester-Nashua, NH Metro Area $20,782
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA Metro Area $65,152
Worcester, MA Metro Area $28,406
the discourse we were having was specifically economics. Montclair basically said dc sf and chi were all almost equal while Boston was a distant fourth. I just have never seen any info backing this up.
his stats are accurate, SF was already a major player before the giant rise of Silicon Valley beefing it up.
look at all the tech companies out here.. most of the internet companies are not even listed..
his stats are accurate, SF was already a major player before the giant rise of Silicon Valley beefing it up.
look at all the tech companies out here.. most of the internet companies are not even listed..
SF has just as many, if not more startups (you could say the newer, more innovative ones), given that SF harbors a more creative, dynamic environment. Look at Twitter, Yelp, Digg, and many more others who have their headquarters in SF. Plus, the majority of the tech and entrepreneurial events are held in downtown SF, instead of the valley, because simply, no one goes the the valley besides the people who actually work there. Most of the hardware-based companies are in SV, naturally, (Intel, Nvidia, etc) because the open, sprawling lots in the valley provide more space for hardware labs, fabs, etc.
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As far as I know though San Jose isn't exactly a center of high arts or cultural institutions or a political strong hold...
Silicon Valley's actually mostly urban sprawl, if you will. Friends who work in the area say that they escape to the city (SF) or other places for anything not work-related (those who don't already work at tech startups in SF already, that is).
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why isn't la in this poll?
All of these cities are economically unique, they're very dense cities, and have diverse economies.
These four are completely structured differently than LA, I feel it would've been the odd one out. No offense though.
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