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Old 05-25-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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once again, your ignorance on Oakland and the Bay Area shines through.

It might interest you to know that Oakland, Pop. 400,000, is just behind Philadelphia, Pop 1,400,000, when it comes to households that earn $200,000+ annually.



So I ask once again:
Name a single suburb anywhere in America that has all these things within its municipal borders?

A thriving, busy Downtown,
3 Pro Sports Teams,
its own international airport,
its own massive port,
its own vibrant walkable neighborhoods,
its own restaurant scene,
its own arts scene,
its own nightlife,
its own widereaching transportation system
and so on.

The answer is you can't name one because it doesnt exist.
Doesn't oakland use BART, so it doesn't have its own transportation, and please don't name something that barely exists and that no one's ever heard of.

Oakland is definitley urban and unique, but so long as they plan on a regional level with SF, which I'm sure they do, then the economic health of SF has a direct impact on the economic health of Oakland., hence its a suburb by default because whats good for SF is good for Oakland, and whats bad for SF is bad for Oakland.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Doesn't oakland use BART, so it doesn't have its own transportation, and please don't name something that barely exists and that no one's ever heard of.

Oakland is definitley urban and unique, but so long as they plan on a regional level with SF, which I'm sure they do, then the economic health of SF has a direct impact on the economic health of Oakland., hence its a suburb by default because whats good for SF is good for Oakland, and whats bad for SF is bad for Oakland.
You simply don't get it. People that LIVE in the Bay Area are telling you Oakland is not a suburb - shouldn't that be good enough?

As far as BART goes, the hub of the entire network is IN Oakland - not San Francisco.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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Doesn't oakland use BART, so it doesn't have its own transportation, and please don't name something that barely exists and that no one's ever heard of.

Oakland is definitley urban and unique, but so long as they plan on a regional level with SF, which I'm sure they do, then the economic health of SF has a direct impact on the economic health of Oakland., hence its a suburb by default because whats good for SF is good for Oakland, and whats bad for SF is bad for Oakland.
Alameda County has its own public transportation (bus) system. This is an unfortunate part of Bay Area public transit, aside from BART and CalTrain, each county has its own system.

And also, why do you continue to argue something that you clearly have little knowledge about?
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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Because everybody knows that Oakland would be no different from any other california city (except LA) if it didn't recieve all that spill-over from SF.

If it wasn't for SF, Oakland would be another San Jose.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Because everybody knows that Oakland would be no different from any other california city (except LA) if it didn't recieve all that spill-over from SF.

If it wasn't for SF, Oakland would be another San Jose.
You still don't get it. San Jose is almost 3 times the size of Oakland.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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You still don't get it. San Jose is almost 3 times the size of Oakland.
What does that have to do with anything?
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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Let it go.

I've never been to ATL, or the Bay area.

Whats a pack of cigs(newports) cost out west, and can you buy beer at a gas station or seven-elevan type store.

I already know about the south and they're cheap cigs, and alcohol in every store.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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What does that have to do with anything?
because your saying it would be "another san jose" as if SJ is a "suburb" ... how could it if San Jose has more than a million people?
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:36 AM
 
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Because everybody knows that Oakland would be no different from any other california city (except LA) if it didn't recieve all that spill-over from SF.

If it wasn't for SF, Oakland would be another San Jose.
I think we've entertained your trolling long enough.

After you've been told what a suburb is, after you've been educated on what Oakland really is like, you just keep on trolling because after all, this really isnt about Oakland is it?

Its really about Philadelphia and how you perceive San Francisco has stolen much of the thunder you believe rightfully belongs to Philly--right?

Your commentary in every thread involving SF here and in the SF Forum denotes a almost palpable resentment and envy that it makes sense why you would try to steer the conversation on some ridiculous tangent about what is and what is not a suburb.

Please sister, I've got your suburb right here.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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because your saying it would be "another san jose" as if SJ is a "suburb" ... how could it if San Jose has more than a million people?
San Jose is quite possibly the biggest suburb in the U.S.

You don't want to start this with me.
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