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it is 46 miles Gmaps Pedometer as the crow flies - driving wise it can be done in as little as little as 72 miles to Manhatten and 64 to staten island
Yes it looks like you are right, on a map it looks about 45-50 miles between the Phildelphia-Bucks County Border and the most Southern part of NYC (Totenville, Staten Island).
Some people may be confused because some sources may only be measuring highway mileage between Downtown Philadelphia and Downtown Manhattan.
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who cares about distance.........................You hicks are not f***in wit us. And you know it.
So stop the hating.
The distance plays an important role if Kidphilly's original post is accurate, distance can only be a factor to help a combined CSA.
That's why the people of nearly two pages on here care about it. It could very well change many charts for census's to come.
Demographics, Income, Crime, Tourism, F500 companies, Etc...
If it happens then all the other places with similar or closer commuter ties will also be combined.
Chicago will spread from Middle of Wisconsin down to most of Northern Indiana and west to Iowa.
Los Angeles will claim everything south of Bakersfield and add Las Vegas. Why not stop there-maybe we can throw in Honolulu too.
San Francisco will annex basically all of Northern California, Northern Nevada and much of Southern Oregon.
Miami, Orlando and Tampa suddenly become a huge single entity.
San Antonio and Austin are a done deal.
The Carolinas become one CSA. Heck, maybe Atlanta will overlap into several states and create a massive CSA. Yikes. Atlanta-Charlotte-Nashville(how's that for huge). LOL
And so on.
You see there isnt going to be a special circumstance by which only the NE would be allowed to combine. It would have to apply to everywhere.
Add part of Southwest Michigan to the Chicago CSA or whatever it's called.
The distance plays an important role if Kidphilly's original post is accurate, distance can only be a factor to help a combined CSA.
That's why the people of nearly two pages on here care about it. It could very well change many charts for census's to come.
Demographics, Income, Crime, Tourism, F500 companies, Etc...
You do understand that between NYC and Philly is one of the most developed and populated regions in the world let alone the U.S.?
These rules would not apply to everyone else because they are not comparable to us.
NYC is number one and Philly is the fourth largest urban area in the US, having two mammoths that close to one another means something.
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You do understand that between NYC and Philly is one of the most developed and populated regions in the world let alone the U.S.?
These rules would not apply to everyone else because they are not comparable to us.
NYC is number one and Philly is the fourth largest urban area in the US, having two mammoths that close to one another means something.
Right, but rules are subjective to change.
Like you said, the land between them are highly developed. What happens now? What happens when people go both ways for work in the morning? Whose CSA should they count in? Better to just have one to avoid the constant confusion.
Add part of Southwest Michigan to the Chicago CSA or whatever it's called.
I think the big difference here is the density of space and much shorter distance. In the 8 counties that sit between NY and Philly (~45 miles on a line) there are 4.6 million people. These counties cover a land area of ~1,350 sq miles (45 miles x 30 miles) and density of 3,391 ppsm (similar to city of Houston). That is the space in between that connect these cities. That swath alone would one of the ten largest metros in US. Yes all these counties are currently in either the NY or Philly metro but I put these metrics to show the difference relative to other areas on space and density.
If I add just Manhatten and Philadelphia which anchor this area it increses the sq miles by 160 and adds 3.4 million people (7.9 million people and a density of >5,000 ppsm)
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US pop=300+mil
Philly,Jersey,NYC= nearly one tenth of the entire U.S. population within 100 miles.
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check the link in my previous post - the proof is in the pudding.
