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Old 05-26-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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You guys DO KNOW this is based on commuters sent from county to county? It's not just based on two cities being near each other, so they must obviously be in the same metro.
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Yeah which is why Mercer County is always borderline between NYC CSA and Philadelphia CSA. Because of the commuting.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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You guys DO KNOW this is based on commuters sent from county to county?
Obviously.

Its fun to hypothesize about the (not too) distant future.

But if I must be serious,

I am inclined to think the Bay Area will add San Joaquin in the 2010 Census. Every indication points to that.

If that does happen and the State of CAs estimates hold true, then the new CSA will look like this:
Alameda 1,574,857(1,453,044)
Contra Costa 1,073,055(956,288)
Marin 260,651(248,301)
Napa 138,917(125,092)
San Benito 58,388(53,793)
San Francisco 856,095(781,200)
San Joaquin 694,293(569,073)
San Mateo 754,285(713,646)
Santa Clara 1,880,876(1,692,947)
Santa Cruz 272,201(256,447)
Solano 427,837(397,074)
Sonoma 493,285(461,520)

Bay Area CSA 2010: 8,484,540


I'm also interested in Lake and Mendocino Counties for 2010, but not quite sure yet.
Lake 64,053(58,548)
Mendocino 90,289(86,618)


If we add these 2 as well, the Bay Area's CSA would jump to 8.6 Million.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Obviously.

Its fun to hypothesize about the (not to) distant future.

But if I must be serious,

I am inclined to think the Bay Area will add San Joaquin in the 2010 Census. Every indication points to that.

If that does happen and the State of CAs estimates hold true, then the new CSA will look like this:
Alameda 1,574,857(1,453,044)
Contra Costa 1,073,055(956,288)
Marin 260,651(248,301)
Napa 138,917(125,092)
San Benito 58,388(53,793)
San Francisco 856,095(781,200)
San Joaquin 694,293(569,073)
San Mateo 754,285(713,646)
Santa Clara 1,880,876(1,692,947)
Santa Cruz 272,201(256,447)
Solano 427,837(397,074)
Sonoma 493,285(461,520)

Bay Area CSA 2010: 8,484,540


I'm also interested in Lake and Mendocino Counties for 2010, but not quite sure yet.
Lake 64,053(58,548)
Mendocino 90,289(86,618)


If we add these 2 as well, the Bay Area's CSA would jump to 8.6 Million.
Haha, its gonna be hard to call the Bay Area "the Bay Area" if it includes areas that aren't touching the Bay. However, Tracy, Manteca, Mountain House (even though its technically Alameda County), and Foreclosuristan (formerly known as Stockton) have grown so much in the past 10 years.

Most of my friends already compare Stockton to San Bernardino. Enjoy that comparison. More and more, I'm beginning to think that California is becoming symmetrical.

AFAIK, doesn't Stockton have its own radio stations and share its media market with Sacramento? We gotta change that man!
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Haha, its gonna be hard to call the Bay Area "the Bay Area" if it includes areas that aren't touching the Bay. However, Tracy, Manteca, Mountain House (even though its technically Alameda County), and Foreclosuristan (formerly known as Stockton) have grown so much in the past 10 years.

Most of my friends already compare Stockton to San Bernardino. Enjoy that comparison. More and more, I'm beginning to think that California is becoming symmetrical.

AFAIK, doesn't Stockton have its own radio stations and share its media market with Sacramento? We gotta change that man!

+1 at Foreclosuristan. That is hilarious.

Unless they change the guidelines for consolidation, Stockton(in all its glory) is as basically asgood as ours.

As far as being likened to San Bernardino, I can see the similarities. San Joaquin County of course is very tiny compared to the 4 Million+ Inland Empire tho.

Also, Santa Cruz and San Benito don't touch SF Bay
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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+1 at Foreclosuristan. That is hilarious.

Unless they change the guidelines for consolidation, Stockton(in all its glory) is as basically asgood as ours.

As far as being likened to San Bernardino, I can see the similarities. San Joaquin County of course is very tiny compared to the 4 Million+ Inland Empire tho.

Also, Santa Cruz and San Benito don't touch SF Bay

Santa Cruz touches a bay (Monterey Bay). Every time I drive over 17 from SJ, I feel like I entered a different, more Redwoods meets beach town type of world instead of "wow, I feel broke by even driving through here" type of environment that Los Gatos and Campbell seem to have.

San Benito is unique because its the only Bay Area county that doesn't touch any body of water. In fact, I'm not too aware of how much develop able land there is in the country. The geography doesn't seem to favor it.

San Joaquin County will probably be added to the Bay Area CSA soon enough. It's pretty much the functional equivalent of the Inland Empire in SoCal, since its ideally between 2 major metro areas (Sacramento and the Bay Area/ IE for LA and SD). However, I also don't want SJ County to lose its agricultural area, since its one of the most productive counties in CA.

No worries though, all the foreclosed homes can be used to grow all types of crops It's crazy became every time I drive along 205 and 120, it seems more and more developed everyday.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:45 PM
 
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Yous are forgetting the obvious one.

NYC and Philly combine to create the Greater New Jersey CSA.

Nothing would even come close.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: DC/Brooklyn, NY/Miami, FL
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Baltimore-Washington, D.C.-Northern Virginia CSA of course
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:53 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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By 2030...

Chicago will add Rockford.
Philadelphia will add Allentown (it's already added Reading).
Kansas City will add Lawrence, KS.
Orlando will add Daytona Beach.
Boston will add Providence and Manchester, NH.
Austin and San Antonio will add each other.
Brownsville, TX and McAllen, TX will add each other.
Mobile and Pensacola will add each other.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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By 2030...

Chicago will add Rockford.
Philadelphia will add Allentown (it's already added Reading).
Kansas City will add Lawrence, KS.
Orlando will add Daytona Beach.
Boston will add Providence and Manchester, NH.
Austin and San Antonio will add each other.
Brownsville, TX and McAllen, TX will add each other.
Mobile and Pensacola will add each other.
I think Orlando has already technically added Daytona Beach, as Deltona is one of the mentioned anchors of the metro - and it's also in Volusia County.

Please correct me if I'm misinformed.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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dallas-ft. worth and new york metro
You mean Dallas-Fort Worth & Baja Oklahoma?
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