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You forgot the proposed rail across the 287 corridor from Suffern, NY to Port Chester, NY and over the future New Tappan Zee Bridge! I'm hoping they build a light rail there that connects to both metro north in tarrytown & port chester, and nj transit in nanuet & suffern!
Also, I think there is a proposed extension to the DC metro (yellow or blue line) to go down to woodbridge?
I think the I-287 Rail Corridor is on hold......haven't heard anything for a while and you need to wait intill the Tappan Zee is replaced.
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As long as the growth is smart growth and not sprawl and stays mostly concentrated in the coastal northeast leaving most of PA and upstate NY rural like it is now than I'm alright with it.
Smart Growth seems to be happening all over NJ , usually in Urban areas that once were abandoned or blighted. Or near / next to NJ Transit Stations.
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I don't think they will grow that much, but gentrification and standard of living improvements in the cities is well underway... It will end up being more like Europe with higher end stuff in the city propers and suburbs being poorer.
Probably you never know , although it think it will even out. I think certain parts of the Northeast will become less poor and more Middle Class.
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That region probably won't pick up again until something big happens to draw people back. Heavy industry aided the growth of the NE and MW in the 20th century, but that industrial base has left and will never come back. Something new needs to happen before those areas become domestic migration destinations again.
We have a Growing Transportation Industry here , and other things. There are at least 10 Rail / Rapid Transit plants around the Region. By 2030 we should have another 30-50 plants if demand keeps up like now.
As I look out the window at the torrential downpour outside, I find myself amused by the idea that we are going to run out of water. Where do you get this stuff?
It's common knowledge that the earth is running out of water. It's not much of a stretch to say that the warmer climates are more prone to drying up the fastest.
Just off the top of my head....The Upper Floridan aquifer, coastal Georgia's largest water source has shown signs of saltwater contamination for years. I can promise that this isn't an isolated case. Combine this with the huge growth that the sun belt has had(not to mention how incredibly unsustainable the growth is *cough* Charlotte *cough*) and you have a recipe for disaster.
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How do build a city on the desert? Ever heard of Las Vegas? Reservoirs can be built in the desert, just like anywhere else.
Yes, because Las Vegas is the poster child of urban sustainability.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Great Lakes aren't going to be saving anybody down here anytime soon.
I'm not talking about the next 10 years, bud. Maybe not even the next 100. But eventually(if the human race makes it that long) the south's unsustainable growth will come crumbling down to the ground.
I have said it before and I will say it again; with the exception of a few major international cities, everything is cyclical. It's only a matter of time.
The South might not run out of water anytime "soon", but the Southwest is already on it's way. Las Vegas in particular. They wanna keep growing, but it's just not sustainable.
Here's an interesting piece about it. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/topics/water/
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The South might not run out of water anytime "soon", but the Southwest is already on it's way. Las Vegas in particular. They wanna keep growing, but it's just not sustainable.
Here's an interesting piece about it. For Want of Water - Topics - Las Vegas Sun
West Texas will have some problems but East Texas won't due to lakes and rivers and etc being all over the place. As for the rest of the "South" it should be fine. Ogallala Aquifer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ The pan handle will start having problems in 30 years or so.
The Southwest is possibly one region to have fears about.
West Texas will have some problems but East Texas won't due to lakes and rivers and etc being all over the place. As for the rest of the "South" it should be fine. Ogallala Aquifer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ The pan handle will start having problems in 30 years or so.
The Southwest is possibly one region to have fears about.
Yeah, that's the real looming problem. Something has to change, maybe the way water is divided among the states there.
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Yeah, that's the real looming problem. Something has to change, maybe the way water is divided among the states there.
Probably not, if you watch TDK it basically sums up how human psychology really does work (in more civil sense of course), water depletion isn't just a problem here, but countries across the world by 2040 will have some of the hardest times surviving. China has a rich source, but has tainted and destroyed many of it's water supply, and depletion is going to harm them. Basically, I will assume that many circumstances will lead to profit on water more than "sharing".
Also, I find it very interesting how the Midwestern states that don't border the Great Lakes can still take advantage of such a large water source like Kansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska especially. That's pretty awesome.
Probably not, if you watch TDK it basically sums up how human psychology really does work (in more civil sense of course), water depletion isn't just a problem here, but countries across the world by 2040 will have some of the hardest times surviving. China has a rich source, but has tainted and destroyed many of it's water supply, and depletion is going to harm them. Basically, I will assume that many circumstances will lead to profit on water more than "sharing".
Also, I find it very interesting how the Midwestern states that don't border the Great Lakes can still take advantage of such a large water source like Kansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska especially. That's pretty awesome.
Some people say water will become more important than oil, it's gonna be the next big thing to war over. The new fad in the war room. I really don't wanna be around to see it when it actually does become that big a problem.
Some people say water will become more important than oil, it's gonna be the next big thing to war over. The new fad in the war room. I really don't wanna be around to see it when it actually does become that big a problem.
True and my area is supposedly close to 25% of the world's fresh water. I can image when the time comes for more water, that it will be hit hard by those that need it.
Probably not, if you watch TDK it basically sums up how human psychology really does work (in more civil sense of course), water depletion isn't just a problem here, but countries across the world by 2040 will have some of the hardest times surviving. China has a rich source, but has tainted and destroyed many of it's water supply, and depletion is going to harm them. Basically, I will assume that many circumstances will lead to profit on water more than "sharing".
Also, I find it very interesting how the Midwestern states that don't border the Great Lakes can still take advantage of such a large water source like Kansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska especially. That's pretty awesome.
Depends on what the water source is? If its deep aquifers then there will be trouble. The situation in Missouri is that half the state is a large rechargable aquifer. (which just gushes springs all over the place meaning more water could be tapped if needed) That and considering water on the surface with large rivers makes water shortages near impossible with the problem tending to be too much water.
The idea of water running out tends to forget technology that could be a game changer to make it moot. For one cheap desalinization would change things up. (especially coupled with clean and cheap energy sources for production and transport) Another is better treatment technology would make water cleaner and use more recyclecd wastewater improving efficency. A difficulty would be cities that don't have much water sources upstream and is a bit above in elevation. Because pumping water from lower places would be very energy intensive.
Personally, I want the Northeast to take a break on any type of major growth. (I don't ever want to see NJ exceed 9.25 million in pop)
The NE/MidW already had it's time of growth during WWI and II, it's the sunbelts turn now.
The massive growth that is happening in Atlanta,Texas Nev Ariz is unsustainable even in the best of times. As time passes cities/neighborhoods grow old. As infrastructure deteriorates poor people replace the middle/upper middle class who head for greener pastures and a new day.
The Texas cities/ Hotlanta will eventually pass the same tipping point that ruined the Rust Belt cities. The middle and upper classes are mobile and in constant motion, trendsetters.
History shows us 2 things.
1. Middle, Upper Middle and Wealthy Classes like to keep themselves at arms length from the poor.
2. Middle,Upper Middle and Wealthy Classes dont rebuild cities they move on and the infrastructure of the cities is handed down to a lesser class except for a few isolated exceptions e.g. Manhattan,SF,Loop,Capitol District,Miami Beach,Center City Philly,Back Bay Boston.
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