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Old 06-08-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark View Post
As far as culture goes, that's a very hard thing to judge. Paris and London have forever left their mark on the literary world, but who still reads books in this day and age? I guess London with the BBC can match NYC as the world's news capitals.
Have left their mark on much more than that, London is a 2000 year old city...
I for one still read books, I would hope most people do as well...
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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suburban safari - perfect description lol!

also coney island = venice beach
coney island is dangerous and ghetto , i wouldnt call it venice beach..im pretty sure venice beach doesnt have hi rise public housing as its skyline
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Chicago is like a smaller pre-giuliani NYC.

Like a NYC with heart.

NYC is still the $hit and has no real comparison in the US, but its no secret that NYC today is thoroughly feminized and disneyfied. Like one gigantic urban themed amusement park for suburban tourists.

Its a place for the rich not the working class that built it.

If you wanna find "real" New Yorkers go to Jersey, Philly, and the working class parts of Conn.
youll find plenty of real new yorkers in nyc sir like myself, all you have to do is not be close to downtown or midtown manhattan. its really easy.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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NYC might be the only major US city to have back to back republican mayors. Nuff said.
nuff said my butt, i bet your whole city would kill to have guilliani as your mayor , so watch your mouth.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by Rhymes with Best Coast View Post
http://www.pwc.co.uk/pdf/pwc_ukeo-section3-march07.pdf (broken link)

Page 20

GDP rank (using City Estimated Components of estimated GDP)
UN data in GDP in 2005 Population GDP per capita (brackets) ($bn at PPPs) (millions) ($k at PPPs)
1 New York 1325 21.9 60.5
2 Tokyo 1157 34.2 33.8
3 Los Angeles 934 18 51.9
4 London 638 12 53.2
5 Washington DC* 575 8.15 70.6
6 San Francisco/Oakland 518 7.25 71.4
7 Chicago 510 9.75 52.3
8 Osaka/Kobe 508 16.8 30.2
9 Seoul 503 22.3 22.6
10 Paris 466 9.95 46.8
You conveniently left this heading off of the info you posted:

Table 3.5 – Alternative Top 30 urban agglomerations by estimated GDP in 2005 using
population estimates and definitions by Thomas Brinkhoff

Estimated GDP in 2005 ($bn at PPPs)
GDP rank (using UN data in brackets)
1 (2) New York $1325
2 (1) Tokyo $1157
3 (3) Los Angeles $934
4 (6) London $638
5 (10) Washington DC* $575
6 (15) San Francisco/Oakland $518
7 (4) Chicago $510
8 (7) Osaka/Kobe $508
9 (20) Seoul** $503
10 (5) Paris $466
11 (11) Boston $379
12 (8) Mexico City $370
13 (9) Philadelphia $347
14 (12) Dallas/Fort Worth $345
15(17) Houston $293
16 (22) Detroit $292
17 (16) Atlanta $279
18 (13) Buenos Aires $262
19 (14) Hong Kong $257
20 (19) Sao Paulo $248

This info is from page 18 (or 4) from the very same document you posted.

Table 3.3 – Top 30 urban agglomerations by estimated GDP in 2005 using UN population estimates and definitions
Estimated GDP in 2005 ($bn at PPPs)
1 Tokyo $1191
2 New York $1133
3 Los Angeles $639
4 Chicago $460
5 Paris $460
6 London $452
7 Osaka/Kobe $341
8 Mexico City $315
9 Philadelphia $312
10 Washington DC $299
11 Boston $290
12 Dallas/Fort Worth $268
13 Buenos Aires $245
14 Hong Kong $244
15 San Francisco/Oakland $242
16 Atlanta $236
17 Houston $235
18 Miami $231
19 Sao Paulo $225
20 Seoul $218

It was a nice try though.

BTW, my info was from 2008, so it's more current.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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"Feminized"? "Disneyfied"? "Urban themed amusement park"? 10M very REAL people live in this amusement park, from the richest to the poorest. Most of them working class, even if it means 300K a year or a few millions a year.
What's up with this communist propaganda?
Well well well, looks like the goat has come back to stroll his mountain.... hello Dementor.

I knew it was you as you instigated some of the bashing on page one.

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los angeles is only a peer because of its entertainment value , i wonder how L.A really is outside of hollywood.
That's ridiculous man, that's like Orlando saying it out performs NYC on the number of tourists and theme parks, both of which are true (tourist part in certain years) but it doesn't put Orlando on the same player park as NYC though. Same thing with LA, even though it's lifestyle is completely different, it's not at the same level, even with some of the factors it can win in.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Hi,

Having trouble finding the right city that would compare with New York City with excitment, arts, transportation, etc. Any ideas as what city in the US compare come close?
In the US? Chicago

No other city even comes close except maybe San Francisco for its density.
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Have left their mark on much more than that, London is a 2000 year old city...
I for one still read books, I would hope most people do as well...
I get what you're saying, I still read too, but nowadays more people are reading Harry Potter and Twilight, versus A Tale of Two Cities.

Like I said, NYC is too big, too diverse, and too powerful economically to be compared to anybody, in this country or around the world. Gigantic cities like Lagos, Mexico DF, Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong, Mumbai, Karachi, and Shanghai are too homogeneous to be compared to NYC, and with the exception of Tokyo, the rest are too poor as well. Diverse cities like Sydney, Paris, Toronto, São Paolo, Rio de Janeiro, and London come the closest in terms of culture and diversity, but, again, NYC crushes them in the economic dept. Within the U.S., Boston and Philly most closely resemble NYC's culture, while Chicago and LA most closely resemble NYC's stature.

All in all, to answer the OP I'd have to say that, within the U.S., Chicago would be the closest to NYC in terms of excitement, arts, and transportation. I'm talking total package here, as DC probably has better transit and SF probably has more ambiance, Chicago gives you the best combination of everything you listed. Although, DC is no slouch when it comes to the arts either, so it's probably a wash between Chicago and DC.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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You conveniently left this heading off of the info you posted:

Table 3.5 – Alternative Top 30 urban agglomerations by estimated GDP in 2005 using
population estimates and definitions by Thomas Brinkhoff
Estimated GDP in 2005 ($bn at PPPs)
GDP rank (using UN data in brackets)
1 (2) New York $1325
2 (1) Tokyo $1157
3 (3) Los Angeles $934
4 (6) London $638
5 (10) Washington DC* $575
6 (15) San Francisco/Oakland $518
7 (4) Chicago $510
8 (7) Osaka/Kobe $508
9 (20) Seoul** $503
10 (5) Paris $466
11 (11) Boston $379
12 (8) Mexico City $370
13 (9) Philadelphia $347
14 (12) Dallas/Fort Worth $345
15(17) Houston $293
16 (22) Detroit $292
17 (16) Atlanta $279
18 (13) Buenos Aires $262
19 (14) Hong Kong $257
20 (19) Sao Paulo $248

This info is from page 18 (or 4) from the very same document you posted.

Table 3.3 – Top 30 urban agglomerations by estimated GDP in 2005 using UN population estimates and definitions
Estimated GDP in 2005 ($bn at PPPs)
1 Tokyo $1191
2 New York $1133
3 Los Angeles $639
4 Chicago $460
5 Paris $460
6 London $452
7 Osaka/Kobe $341
8 Mexico City $315
9 Philadelphia $312
10 Washington DC $299
11 Boston $290
12 Dallas/Fort Worth $268
13 Buenos Aires $245
14 Hong Kong $244
15 San Francisco/Oakland $242
16 Atlanta $236
17 Houston $235
18 Miami $231
19 Sao Paulo $225
20 Seoul $218

It was a nice try though.

BTW, my info was from 2008, so it's more current.
Not to rehash anything that's been said over a million times on CD.

You asked me to prove SF+SJ (SF Bay Area) was on par with Chicagoland, London, or Paris Metro. I did with published data.

You know damn well that when you find data knocking SF to #15, you are only counting basically half the Bay Area. In reality, the Bay Area is one and ranks up there with the aforementioned metros.

Can you even give me that?? Are we even debating in good faith here if you won't allow us that much??
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