09-22-2010, 09:33 PM
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Battle of the Great Lakes: Cleveland, Detroit, Toronto, or Pittsburgh
Which Great Lakes city dominates?
09-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Location: Chicago
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Would it be unsporting to point out that Pittsburgh is not a Great Lakes city?
09-22-2010, 09:37 PM
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In general
When I say Great Lakes, I mean the actual region and all the comparable regions around it. I apologize for not being specific.
09-22-2010, 09:45 PM
Location: Chicago
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When I say Great Lakes, I mean the actual region and all the comparable regions around it. I apologize for not being specific.
Pittsburgh is still the odd man out on this list. It is the crossroads of several regions (Northeast, Appalachia, Rust Belt, etc.) that make it distinctly different from more clearly defined Great Lakes cities.
09-22-2010, 09:48 PM
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Actually...
There are many characteristics that Pittsburgh shares with the others (cost of living, weather, dining, and location). Pittsburgh may have a different feel and terrain, but that certainly doesn't isolate it from the Great Lakes. It is only 2 hours from cities within the region (Akron, Cleveland, Erie).
09-22-2010, 09:58 PM
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There are many characteristics that Pittsburgh shares with the others (cost of living, weather, dining, and location). Pittsburgh may have a different feel and terrain, but that certainly doesn't isolate it from the Great Lakes. It is only 2 hours from cities within the region (Akron, Cleveland, Erie).
And it's still not a great Lakes city.
Indianapolis is only two hours from Lake Michigan. Columbus is only two hours from Lake Erie. Does that make them Great Lakes cities? If so, you'd be the first I know of to say so.
09-23-2010, 07:24 AM
Location: Chicago, IL
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Pittsburgh is not a Great Lakes City. And Toronto is far above these other cities, as well as much more expensive.
09-23-2010, 08:04 AM
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When I say Great Lakes, I mean the actual region and all the comparable regions around it.
Phew! I thought maybe Pittsburgh had somehow migrated north when I wasn't looking. What a relief ...
But it's still not a Great Lakes city by any stretch of the imagination.
09-23-2010, 09:45 AM
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I can somewhat understand why you included Pittsburgh in there (similar to Cleveland), but if this is the "Battle of the Great Lakes," then why is Chicago and Milwaukee excluded?
09-23-2010, 09:50 AM
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Or Buffalo? Among others.
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