12-15-2011, 12:13 PM
Location: Cleveland, OH
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well if you like Little Italy and University Circle, there are currently one unit left of this very handsome development. I believe it is for sale for $590K and a 15-year tax abatement (no property taxes). 27 units were built this year, 26 have sold:
http://coltman27.com/
I see kids running around Little Italy as the time.
PM me if you have any questions about Little Italy/University Circle.
Private school opens the door for you to live here, plus zero upkeep. Also the area is walking distance to all the museums, Cleveland Orchesrta, restaurants, Tony Brush park, etc. I'd call the number in the link to confirm there is still a unit available.
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12-15-2011, 12:54 PM
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$590thou????????? You gotta be kidding me
12-15-2011, 02:18 PM
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When you are young, you are not thinking so much about being in a position where you have to sell a house in the next ten or so years to implement a retirement budget vs buying something that you can retire to. Time itself is a bigger consideration. With the economy being as uncertain as what it is, resale in Shaker Hieghts with high taxes and bordering crime kind of scares us. However, I am really excited about moving to Cleveland, I have visited several times without considering moving there and have LOVED university circle, Downtown, Little Italy...I'm just not sure that those are places to raise a child
It sounds to me that you would just love Bratenahl Place (specifically this place not just Bratenahl in general). I completely understand you being worried that it is near the high crime area of East Cleveland. I too was worried about it when we purchased a home in Bratenahl just two streets over from Bratenahl Place. Honestly though...my thought is that if the blight can flow into Bratenahl...would the community continue to be what it is after all these years? It remains the second highest income place in NE Ohio and 6th highest income place in the entire state. Bratenahl Place specifically is gated with 24 hour security and you are right night door to one of the most prestigious yacht clubs in Ohio. They are still there so I'm sure that says something. From what I've seen personally...there are woman who walk their dogs around at night when it's completely dark out, ALONE. I don't know anything about grocery though? I don't even know where people in the area go to get their groceries yet.
The way I see it...
Pros:
-Since its such a wealthy community, I'm willing to bet that the majority is of a more mature age such as yourself and families second
-You are literally right on the lake
-It has a pool (I'm sure junior would love this)
-So much beautiful landscaping, PLENTY of room for junior to run around and play
-24/7 Gated w/ Security
-Fitness center
-Concierge
-Restaurants and spas on site
-ZERO UPKEEP, you have all the amenities that ANYONE could want...true luxury living
-Close to great private school
-Close to everything including the airport
Beachwood Place - 20 minute drive Cedar Lee Theatre - 16 minute driveCleveland Botanical Garden - 10 minute driveCleveland Metroparks Zoo - 15 minute driveThe Cleveland Museum of Art - 10 minute driveCleveland Museum of Natural History - 10 minute driveThe Cleveland Orchestra (Severance Hall) - 10 minute drive Cleveland Playhouse - 12 minute driveCleveland Public Theatre - 13 minute driveCrawford Auto Aviation Museum (http://www.wrhs.org/index.php/crawford - broken link) - 10 minute drive Crocker Park (http://www.bratenahlplace.com/www.crockerpark.com/ - broken link) - 30 minute drive East 4th Street District - 11 minute driveGreat Lakes Science Center - 8 minute driveHouse of Blues - 10 minute drive Lakeside Yacht Club (http://www.bratenahlplace.com/www.lakesideyachtclub.com/ - broken link) - 8 minute driveLegacy Village - 20 minute driveLittle Italy - 12 minute driveOhio City - 8 minute driveOmnimax Theatre - 8 minute drivePlayhouse Square Theatre District - 8 minute drive Rock And Roll Hall of Fame - 8 minute driveShoreby Club - 1 minute drive Tower City Center - 10 minute driveTower City Cinemas - 10 minute driveWarehouse District - 10 minute driveThe West Side Market - 8 minute drive
Cons:
-High HOA fees
-Not walkable to any local attractions (besides thor shorby club in which you need to be a member)
-Bad Cleveland public school systems (doesn't affect you since you are going private anyways)
-I don't really know much else since I haven't even moved in yet.
Overall...this place just seems (to me at least) perfect for all of your needs especially you being worried about needing it to be a good place to retire in case you are stuck with your property. Who knows? unless you are looking for tropical beaches...you may even WANT to stay there for when you retire.
Anyways...hope this helps.
12-15-2011, 04:48 PM
Location: north royalton
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My husband and I are in our late 50s and raising a five year old (grandchild). We are relocating to Cleveland because of work and are looking at areas on line. We will be buying a home and would like to own something that does not require the upkeep that we have been used to in the big homes (and yards) in which we raised our family. We will likely spend 350 to 600,000. Our grandchild will likely attend private school. We desire a community that is kid friendly but also could be a locale where we could live part time after retirement if the housing crisis continues and we have difficulty selling in the years ahead. We would sure appreciate any suggestions.
Please consider the North Royalton area,,..Its ideal to raise children..We just moved over here and with the price range you're talking, you would be very happy over here
...The North Royalton schools have been featured in Forbes Business Magazine and rates 10 in the Nation....There would be no need for private schools unless that was what you wanted...
12-15-2011, 05:11 PM
Location: Cleveland, OH
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$590thou????????? You gotta be kidding me
Yeah, but these places have to be thee best place to live in Little Italy/University Circle. They are a three-story townhomes that include rooftop villa area with has incredible views of the Downtown skyline and the rest of University Circle. I know the developer could not build them fast enough. I'd see Amish there every day this year knocking out the construction and as there were finishing, people would be moving in with their furniture. I'm seen a few families move in as well.
I'm thinking this last unit may be gone too...but I'd say it's very much worth a call if this is in their price range.
With the way University Circle is becoming one of the best places to live in the Midwest (cultural, historic, world-diversity, world-class institutions, educated people moving in, and food! etc), I'd say this place may be the hottest ticket in town for a completely custom, zero-maintenance home...plus the unexpected sense of community for being a part of University Circle.
12-15-2011, 10:24 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback. I was not familiar with this site and it is amazing to me that strangers are willing to go to the effort to offer specific suggestion and opinion. Your love of Cleveland shines. I feel enthusiastic about moving to a city that residents convey such a connection to. I truly appreciate your helpfulness and will use these leads.
12-16-2011, 08:06 AM
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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$590thou????????? You gotta be kidding me
And there's one left...
People DO have money in this town, my friend. Don't believe everything you read.
12-16-2011, 08:21 AM
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I could have sworn they were going for about $300-$330k (a friend of mine and her finance were looking into housing and they were price checking some places, including what I had thought was Coltman - ironically to the topic, they ended up buying in Shaker).
12-16-2011, 08:38 PM
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Yeah, but these places have to be thee best place to live in Little Italy/University Circle. They are a three-story townhomes that include rooftop villa area with has incredible views of the Downtown skyline and the rest of University Circle. I know the developer could not build them fast enough. I'd see Amish there every day this year knocking out the construction and as there were finishing, people would be moving in with their furniture. I'm seen a few families move in as well.
Are Coltman the new ones on Euclid, or the new ones in Little Italy? The ones on Euclid could have used a better color scheme. The ones in Little Italy look amazing.
12-16-2011, 10:01 PM
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Are Coltman the new ones on Euclid, or the new ones in Little Italy? The ones on Euclid could have used a better color scheme. The ones in Little Italy look amazing.
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People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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