A dying city? (crimes, neighborhood, to buy)

[eddie1261]

Well, last year's Browns GAVE AWAY a game to Pittsburgh and Cincy, and lost one on a blocked field goal. That 10-6 could have so easily been 13-3.

This year the schedule got tougher. We'll see how it goes.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by eddie1261

Well, last year's Browns GAVE AWAY a game to Pittsburgh and Cincy, and lost one on a blocked field goal. That 10-6 could have so easily been 13-3.

This year the schedule got tougher. We'll see how it goes.

Yeah, I watched both those games and I must admit that it was pretty sad. The same thing happened to the Cavs at least 5 times last season too, most of the loses were Lebrons fault as he had the chance to make a shot in all of them, so the Cavs could have easily had 51 wins last season.

I remember one game specifically I think it was against Phoenix, the Cavs felt robbed in that game because they had played great the whole game but the Suns caught up and at the last minute Lebron couldnt make a game winning shot that wasnt even that difficult.

[Buckeye 89]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Yeah, I watched both those games and I must admit that it was pretty sad. The same thing happened to the Cavs at least 5 times last season too, most of the loses were Lebrons fault as he had the chance to make a shot in all of them, so the Cavs could have easily had 51 wins last season.

I remember one game specifically I think it was against Phoenix, the Cavs felt robbed in that game because they had played great the whole game but the Suns caught up and at the last minute Lebron couldnt make a game winning shot that wasnt even that difficult.

Ehhh

You don't know much about basketball huh

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Buckeye 89

Ehhh

You don't know much about basketball huh

I know a lot about basketball....Ive only been watching and playing, for all my life and watched every single Cavs game last season...

The Cavs gave up a lot of games that they could have easily won, Lebron used to be an at least decent shot when it came down to the last minute and the game, last season I dont think he made one game winning shot.

[Buckeye 89]

Originally Posted by Cle440

I know a lot about basketball....Ive only been watching and playing, for all my life and watched every single Cavs game last season...

The Cavs gave up a lot of games that they could have easily won, Lebron used to be an at least decent shot when it came down to the last minute and the game, last season I dont think he made one game winning shot.

Ehhh

Cavs had alot of injuries last year...And to add to the injuries we had dumb players like Sasha and Andy V holding out...But anyway, Your not going to make every game winning shot you take....It just don't work like that....The Suns game Marion traveld on his game winning shot and the refs didnt call it...There was no game winning shot for Lebron to take, We were up by one

Also...The Cavaliers led the league in the most 4th quarter comebacks...And Lebron led the league in 4th quarter scoring, And he had a game winning shot against Portland at their place..

[BelieveInCleve]

Yes I realized that they had a lot of injuries last year. It just seemed to me like they could have easily pulled off 4 or 5 more wins. Still 46 wins isnt that bad but I was expecting them to get over 50 last season, but probably not with all the injuries.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Chef Boyardee

It is my impression, that middle class Blacks lived in neighborhoods "separate" from lower class Blacks and often bordering middle class White neighborhoods. (Remember, the exception doesn't prove the rule).

In regards to every single member of a community "trusting/calling" the police: it is my impression that is not necessary for law enforcement to bring order to a town. Although, accepting, understanding and approving of police tactics (like strictly enforcing jay walking laws to prevent panhandling and boulevard strutting) helps. Particularly, when they give you a ticket for it!
I've never met a criminal or the mother of one, who thought he was guilty or treated fairly by the police. (Remember, the exception does not prove the rule).

What I meant by distrust of the police is that many Blacks in America have been harrassed more by the police than most ethnic groups and for many reasons do not trust the police. If you do not trust a police officer, how can you depend on him/her when your house is being robbed or when murders run rampant in your neighborhood? If you don't call the police, crime will continue because many criminals will think "well, I can committ crimes here because no one will "snitch" on me here". Why do you think few criminals who committ blue-collar crimes rarely go into the nice, expensive areas of metro areas to committ those crimes? Because they are smart enough to know someone would call the police on them just based on mere suspicion. The police have been called on me in my own subdivision when I was taking a night time walk.

Whenever police officers are seen the same way as criminals, real crimes happen.

[Chef Boyardee]

Well, they do have a lot more contact with the police, because they commit a lot more crime than any other race. You know, some people's experience with the police is just traffic. So, they don't know what it's like to get handcuffed, tossed in the back of a squad car, dumped in a stinky tank and then chained to several other people and shuttled around town, only to be dumped in a room with a hundred other criminals and no guard! Naturally, that experience is scary, humiliating and offensive. Particularly, if you tried to cooperate and still got your arm twisted anyway or got chained to somebody scary. It is frightening. Of course, that is part of what makes it a deterrent to crime. It is also one of the reasons I think we should: legalize and regulate the drug and prostitution trades, eliminate all domestic violence laws and hang murderers. Also, I think our DUI laws are extremely hypocritical. What we need are laws against driving inconsiderately. We need to bring back courtesy to the roadways, but that's a suburban issue! lol

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Chef Boyardee

Well, they do have a lot more contact with the police, because they commit a lot more crime than any other race. You know, some people's experience with the police is just traffic. So, they don't know what it's like to get handcuffed, tossed in the back of a squad car, dumped in a stinky tank and then chained to several other people and shuttled around town, only to be dumped in a room with a hundred other criminals and no guard! Naturally, that experience is scary, humiliating and offensive. Particularly, if you tried to cooperate and still got your arm twisted anyway or got chained to somebody scary. It is frightening. Of course, that is part of what makes it a deterrent to crime.

What I was saying is that in the past (keyword at the beginning and middle of the 20th century) there were alot of issues with blacks being harrassed by the police. I wasn't talking about today.

[Chef Boyardee]

When most people experience fear, shame and guilt they develop resentments, ultimately, because they don't turn to God. Unfortunately, our media exploits that. Rodney King is an example of that. His beating was portrayed as totally undeserved, but the reality was, Rodney King was jacked up on PCP and kept attacking the officers, despite attempts to stun him. So, they didn't have any choice but to beat him and quite frankly, he was lucky they didn't just shoot him dead. However, our media used that event to stir up resentments that they knew would exist in most urban Black communities. As a result, L.A. got trashed and a lot of innocent people got murdered.

That course of events is not unique in America. Hence, our terrible race relations.

Furthermore, our media is never held accountable for what they do and they do not care about the innocent people who will suffer because of their actions. So, this will continue.

Remember, the Black community is not the only one they exploit.