Cleveland sounds alot like Detroit?!? (Columbus, Cincinnati: high school, university, live)

[Cleveland_Collector]

Originally Posted by mspryce

Thanks Everyone...I'm feeling a little better now. Because at first...some of these posts had me petrified I've lived in more than a couple of places so I know that every place contains spots that tour guides usually avoid And I don't mind this...because you can't get away from it...but it makes sense to try and have a nice, safe, clean, place to live...even if you like to hang out in the more "lets just say exciting" parts of town. You guys have been very helpful, I'll get about the business of researching based on the things I've learned here.

I will keep you all posted on how it goes....

Mspryce, upon moving to the area, you will find that the biggest problem with Cleveland is the ignorant, negative Clevelander. They're a small but vocal contingent who feels that the grass must be greener everywhere else even though they have no actual basis for the opinion. The Greater Cleveland area is a nice place to live. Yes, there are some bad neighborhoods around the city proper. Ever been to the south side of Chicago? Cleveland's bad areas are like Disneyland compared to it. Ever been to south-central LA? The comparison is almost laughable.

Painesville is on the fringes of the busier part of the metropolitan area. It's almost semi-rural. You'll be going west to do most of your shopping, but the area is pretty nice and totally tame. It's virtually crime-free. So is most of the metropolitan area. We're nothing like Detroit.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

I am very proud of where I live. My wife and I made a commitment to this town by buying a home.... are you ready for this? IN CLEVELAND. We moved from the suburbs to one of the best areas in Cleveland.
I don't always lock my doors, I never lock my car doors, we walk every where at night. My nieghborhood is SAFER then some suburbs, dare I say it.
Not to even mention when we do have a child there are 2 EXCELLENT public schools in my nieghborhood. Just hope we have a boy because the grade school one is BOYS only. lol

I think I remember you saying you lived in Kamms Corner? or that may have been a different person.

Kamms corner is a pretty nice area.

As far as other good areas in Cleveland there's most the rest of West Park, Old Brooklyn, downtown, edgewater, University Circle, parts of North Collinwood and Ohio City/Tremont.

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by BelieveInCleve

I think I remember you saying you lived in Kamms Corner? or that may have been a different person.

Kamms corner is a pretty nice area.

Yes that was me. 44111 baby!

[citydudeallover]

Short note , There is good people everywhere within this City , It is not a zip code !
I share the same , with the Edgewater area , and yet many would say OMG, We all
need to say , Darn it same City , same services , I live where I do , for way to long .However For me really no reason to leave , and have seen city services improve , in the last 4 years

[sophialee]

Originally Posted by O-H-I-O

All of Painesville surrounding area is great. Be carful because there is a difference between Painesville City and Painesville TWP. Painesville City schools are not as good as the TWP's. Painesville TWP, Concord, Mentor and Perry are all great places to live.

I grew up in P-Ville

^^^This is important if you are moving to Painesville. I grew up in the Mentor/Kirtland Hills area and know P'ville well. It has some shady parts.

If you are thinking of a particular place, I'd post it here and ask what the hood is like. I know Painesville like the back of my hand as I'm sure other posters on here do as well, and we'll be able to tell you the areas to avoid.

Oh and... Cleveland > Detroit.

[todd72173]

Painseville - I can not recommend this place for reasons below.

1 - Next to lake = Tons of snow and harsh weather
2 - Far away from downtown - Long commute
3 - Schools - Public schools were rated one of the WORST in the last Plain Dealer report

[ksu sucks]

First, on Cleveland....Cleveland's issue isn't people leaving the area as much as it is people moving outside city limits to the suburbs. The good news is, that will be fixed after we use up all the fuel...but I digress. And onto Painesville...I grew up in eastern Lake county...Painesville Township is a great place to raise a family. It's VERY different from Painesville city. Painesville city schools(Harvey High) are trashy and normally ranked toward the bottom of the state. Painesville Twp schools(Riverside High) are just fine. Might I suggest moving a little further into the boonies? Perry is just east of Painesville Twp and has tons of land and some of the best public schools in the country. Good Luck!

[nickolaseposter]

Firstly, Cleveland is a nice town, has a beautiful skyline, and has plenty of opportunity. It is not crappy like Detroit. I would say on a scale from 1-10, Detroit is a 2 or 3, Cleveland is a 5 or 6. It is not the best Ohio city but it has decent suburbs. I wouldn't say it has amazing suburbs though. Maybe a few, but even Dayton has stronger suburbs than Cleveland. Cincinnati has good suburbss, too, possibly similar to Cleveland. I would say the best suburban atmosphere lies within Dayton. It has arounf 50 suburbs. Some larger than others. But there is only one that I think of that is hit rock bottom and even it is seeing signs of improvement (Trotwood, Ohio.) Some of the best suburbs of Dayton are Vandalia, Beavercreek, Oakwood, Centerville, Tipp City, Brookville, Englewood, Bellbrook, Springboro, Troy, Sidney, Fairborn, Xenia, Miamisburg, Union, Arcanum, Eaton, Clayton, and Germantown. Some more middle class ones are Springfield, Middletown, Huber Heights, Greenville, West Alexandria, Farmersville, New Carsisle, Lewisburg, Trotwood, and a few others. Of all these suburbs, only four didn't get the Excellent Rating from the State of Ohio Board of Education, and seven got the Excellent with Distinction rating, which is the highest a district can get. Some worse off districts are Northridge and Dayton Public but thats it.

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by nickolaseposter

Firstly, Cleveland is a nice town, has a beautiful skyline, and has plenty of opportunity. It is not crappy like Detroit. I would say on a scale from 1-10, Detroit is a 2 or 3, Cleveland is a 5 or 6. It is not the best Ohio city but it has decent suburbs. I wouldn't say it has amazing suburbs though. Maybe a few, but even Dayton has stronger suburbs than Cleveland. Cincinnati has good suburbss, too, possibly similar to Cleveland. I would say the best suburban atmosphere lies within Dayton. It has arounf 50 suburbs. Some larger than others. But there is only one that I think of that is hit rock bottom and even it is seeing signs of improvement (Trotwood, Ohio.) Some of the best suburbs of Dayton are Vandalia, Beavercreek, Oakwood, Centerville, Tipp City, Brookville, Englewood, Bellbrook, Springboro, Troy, Sidney, Fairborn, Xenia, Miamisburg, Union, Arcanum, Eaton, Clayton, and Germantown. Some more middle class ones are Springfield, Middletown, Huber Heights, Greenville, West Alexandria, Farmersville, New Carsisle, Lewisburg, Trotwood, and a few others. Of all these suburbs, only four didn't get the Excellent Rating from the State of Ohio Board of Education, and seven got the Excellent with Distinction rating, which is the highest a district can get. Some worse off districts are Northridge and Dayton Public but thats it.

I went to school in Dayton and I never got the impression that their suburbs were anything special. Some really nice ones, some very rural ones that don't even feel like suburbs. I'd say that Cleveland has a better variety of suburbs. Oakwood is nice (I liken it to Shaker Heights), but it's the only suburb that I think has an Eastern feel to it. Most of Dayton's suburbs have a traditional Midwest feel to it.

[1watertiger]

nickel poster,, thanks for the laugh today. dayton suburbs stronger than clevelands or cincys? lol and since when did springfield and xenia become part of dayton? they are surrounded by corn the last i drove thru.