Enough with the Cleveland bashing!

[jh1347s]

Originally Posted by tjohio

How about this. Cleveland will be one of the TOP 5 Hottest markets in the united states in the next 5 years!. I am the only one saying it and I want the credit for it!
With over 6 BILIION dollers being committed to downtown Cleveland projects through 2012. With fresh water,grossly underpriced urban living, growing new businesses that do not rely on Moving industries. Medical base. No e quakes, terrorist,floods, WATCH OUT!

Earthquakes can occur almost anywhere in the United States. However, even though northeastern Ohio does not have earthquakes anywhere nearly as severe or as frequent as those on the West Coast, this region does get small quakes every now and then. I remember one winter day about 20 years ago. I was living in a Cleveland suburb at the time, and was in my bedroom when I heard rumbling outside. I thought at first it was just snow falling off the roof; then, I went into my living room, turned on the TV to the noon news, and promptly heard the following: ". . . What you just felt was an earthquake..."

I was surprised to hear the foregoing. I've lived in the Great Lakes region (the Cleveland area, until nine years ago--I am 53 years old and now live in Fairport Harbor) my entire life, and that small quake I mentioned was the first earthquake I've ever actually felt. However, this entire area is in fact on a fault line, so it is bound to get small quakes once in a great while.

Your statement about there being no terrorists or floods in Cleveland and northeastern Ohio is not true. There are and there have been terrorists in this area, even before 9/11. Are you new to this area? If so, I suspect you were given some (actually quite a bit) of misinformation from people in your home town as to the history of this region.

As to floods, northeast Ohio gets one every once in a while, and in fact the Grand River here in Fairport flooded and jumped its banks in 2006, causing a flood in the village as well. When I lived in the suburbs, the basement of my house would flood every time we'd get a hard, sustained rainstorm; the streets will flood under the same conditions. When my folks were first married and moved to this area (Lake County) from Cleveland in 1955, there was a torrential rainstorm that summer, causing the storm sewers to back up. With nowhere else to go, the contents of those sewers flowed into basements, including ours. My dad told me there was garbage, sewage, water, name it, in our basement (and probably, even likely, our neighbors' basements as well) for days afterward.

[1watertiger]

1955 lake county? when men were men and sheep were scared

[Peregrine]

Originally Posted by jh1347s

Earthquakes can occur almost anywhere in the United States. However, b.............. edit for brevity ..............afterward.

Man, you ARE a wet blanket!!What the h.... Some guy tries to show some enthusiam for the area and WAM WAM WAM you have to shut him down. Jeez. Grumpy.
You bring up that tiny easrthquake from 20 years ago? O yea, I remember that. I was in junior high. What was the damage estimate from that one? Oyea... $5.95 because it knocked a dish off some housewife's chine cabinet in Parma.
Terrorism? Seriously? 9/11 terrorists were close enough to SEE the buildings in downtown Cleveland. The mission was not going well. They could have easily toppled Key Tower. But no... they were like "I think that's Cleveland, let's turn around...."
As for floods? You didn't even mention Wellington last year. Police Officer died trying to save someone. But still... as bas as that flood was it was still a minor inconvenience compared to most areas that have real flood problems.

I'm with you TJOhio. Let's try and root for our home, mm'kay?
It really is true...I never believed it until I started hanging out here. Clevelanders in general are very negative. I check a few other city forums and there is nowhere any negatitivty like this forum. It's prevalent here.
Doesn't bother me though. I ignore it.

[mommamia b]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

Same here...WHS class of 98.

holy crap...class of '97!

[chrisolsen]

As someone who has lived in Portland, ME, San Fran, San Diego, Charleston SC, and all around the Wash. DC area for 19 years and moved back to Cleveland, I can speak first hand how hard of a life it is to live life in a major city with major city headaches when you are middle-class trying to raise a family like myself. When I was young and single, DC was great. If you are rich and powerful, DC is great. If you are in the middle (which applies, oh...say 97% of the population there), and if you have kids, it's a very hard way of life. The traffic is horrendous. You need to make restaurant appts. weeks (or more) in advance), and good luck parking once you get one. The combination of the heat and the HUMIDITY is beyond oppressive in the summer. The winters are damp and never gets cold enough to adjust. If there is an inch of snow, it can take 4-8 hours for a normally 1 hour horrendous commute of 15 miles. Oh...and if it does snow 1-3", the bread and milk will be gone from the grocery stores within hours. Most people think they are important, but aren't. It's so transient that it's very hard to make meaningful relationships.

I bet many people who bash cleveland have never spent a signficant part of their years in a MAJOR metro area like DC, NYC, Boston, Philly, Chicago, etc., and experienced the downsides of a major area. Sure, there are good things about major metro areas.

I firmly believe that if someone can't be happy in Cleveland, they won't be any happier in a major area -- they may say they are. And if they are this unhappy, move! I did. I grew up in a small midwestern town and wanted big-city life, did it, had fun for a while, then it got old.

I am with you HopeToComeHome.

Moreover, my kids have done more in 1 year here than they ever could have in DC in 10 years. Parent sleep outside in tents for 3 days to signup for hockey for example -- total insanity.

[Peregrine]

Good post Chris. Totally Agree.
I see a lot of people talking dreamily of how wonderful Chicago is... and it is a cool city for a metropolis. Nice to visit, couldn't pay me to live there.
The first time I ever drove to Chicago, Mapquest said 6 hours. Cool. I get to the Skyway bridge in about 6 hours. The friend I was visiting lived NE of Chicago proper so I had to drive through the city to get there... it took an HOUR AND A HALF to drive across town because the traffic was so bad.
Left on a Sunday... a Sunday.... and got stuck in a traffic jam near the skyway bridge around 8pm for an hour of barely moving.
Spent 2 weeks in LA for work. Monday night 12:30am they break in on whatever I was watching on TV to announce I-whatever freeway is backed up for miles because of an accident. At nearly 1am. On a Monday.
These things are just incomprehensible to a Clevelander like me.