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Old 02-14-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Default Hot Mess on W. 117th

I'm curious as to whether anyone knows which city (Cleveland or Lakewood) owns or has responsibility for the maintenance of W. 117th, especially the part approaching its Northern extent.

Here's a picture of the hot mess near the corner of W. 117th and Clifton, a situation which has persisted for a month or so now... and this is far from all of it.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I'm curious as to whether anyone knows which city (Cleveland or Lakewood) owns or has responsibility for the maintenance of W. 117th, especially the part approaching its Northern extent.

Here's a picture of the hot mess near the corner of W. 117th and Clifton, a situation which has persisted for a month or so now... and this is far from all of it.
It's gotta be Cleveland. Roads are in terrible shape all around the city. I dread driving in Cleveland proper (and even moreso East Cleveland) this time of year.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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What's the deal? Is there just too much road for Cleveland to maintain with its budget? Or is there massive incompetence involved? Sadly, I'm guessing it's at least a little of both...

(All said as a staunch Cleveland-supporter...)
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Mostly the former. There are a lot of roads in Cleveland, and not a lot of money available to fix them. A big problem is that ODOT only provides money for new road construction, not maintenance.
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Yeah, its not just along W. 117th where it borders Lakewood. They had a lane closed last week on the i-90 over pass because potholes were probably a foot deep and 6 feet across. Drive through lakewood and you won't see hardly any major potholes. 117th at Lorain is also horrible. Maybe 5 cars get through the light on the eastern lane because everyone has to drive 1 mph through that bombed out section of the street.
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Old 02-16-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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I'm curious as to whether anyone knows which city (Cleveland or Lakewood) owns or has responsibility for the maintenance of W. 117th, especially the part approaching its Northern extent.

Here's a picture of the hot mess near the corner of W. 117th and Clifton, a situation which has persisted for a month or so now... and this is far from all of it.
Well, there isn't much anyone can do about it until the spring. The only repair you can really do right now is cold patch and that is only good for 1-2 passes of a plow.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Roanoke County, Virginia
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It has been a million years since I last lived in Cleveland so I could be wrong about this, but I think that the east side of West 117th street is Cleveland's responsibility, while the west side is Lakewood's burden.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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The sad part is they have patched all the big holes once already a few weeks ago. Problem is with the =weather it was only those temporary patches. So it snowed again and plows came through again and all those temporary patches are gone again. That's why it SEEMS like they've not even attempted repairs. but they have. They will do another round of temp patches before they fix them a"for real" in the spring. And then in a year or two those patches will degrade and break down and we go through it all again....

The part you are talking about is jointly shared by CLE and Lakewood. The border is technically the middle of the street. NB lanes are CLE and SB lanes are LKWD. I believe they are supposed to split costs for those sections.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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There's got to be a better way:
Cleveland reviews new system for patching potholes: Road Rant | cleveland.com
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Wow, very cool.
However, I have to *sigh* a little bit. THIS is typical BS Cleveland politicians at work:


Cleveland intends to monitor the mended sections of East 75th
Meaning it will be 5 years before we see this in use here
to see how well the patches hold up to the battering of traffic, plows and freeze-and-thaw cycles. Administrators with the city's Department of Public Works seemed somewhat skeptical during the demonstration.
BUT WE NEED TO MONITOR THIS UNPROVEN TECHNOLOGY

Michael Cox observed from the sidewalk as the truck.....He said the patching system will be analyzed and considered....."Everyone has a miracle cure," Cox said, "but they usually don't work."

Hmmmmmmm

Niagara Falls, N.Y., brought in the Pothole Killer the past few winters to deal with its crumbling streets. Repairs done four years ago remain rock solid, said David Kinney, who oversees the city's streets. His office used to average two dozen pothole complaints a day this time of year. Now? "We almost never get them," he said.
Kinney recommended the system to Cleveland. He contacted the city after his son visited Northeast Ohio and told him about the condition of the streets.

Still unproven technology damnit!!!

The Pothole Killer also has taken out potholes in Washington D.C., New Orleans and on state highways in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia.



We can't pay $35,000 to fix all our potholes... what will we do with the cities workers that have that job now????
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