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Old 04-05-2016, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Just like the title implies.... I'd love to hear what you guys think about the city of Parma in general.
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Old 04-06-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Beachwood, OH
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If Cleveland is the joke city of the country, Parma is the joke city of Cleveland.


It's unfair for Cleveland. It's less unfair for Parma.


IMO.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Lotta flamingos.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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Section 8 has been bleeding there for a while. Not the worst place in the world for a starter home, but it's seen better days.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Strongsville, OH
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From a Real Estate investment perspective- The rental market in Parma is VERY strong. There's an investor I work with who absolutely loves buying properties in Parma, rehabbing them, and leasing them out.

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Old 04-06-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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From a Real Estate investment perspective- The rental market in Parma is VERY strong. There's an investor I work with who absolutely loves buying properties in Parma, rehabbing them, and leasing them out.
That's always good to hear.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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If Cleveland is the joke city of the country, Parma is the joke city of Cleveland.


It's unfair for Cleveland. It's less unfair for Parma.


IMO.
I've always wondered why Parma gets a bad rap. To me, it seems like a decent place.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Beachwood, OH
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I've always wondered why Parma gets a bad rap. To me, it seems like a decent place.
(Relatively) socially acceptable stereotypes.
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Old 04-06-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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School levy failures, public corruption and low ratings for Parma High School have hurt the city's image.

Parma school levy passes | cleveland.com

http://www.cleveland.com/countyincri...lley_sent.html

Parma Schools, 1-25 - Parma, OH | GreatSchools

Hopefully, the rot has been eliminated and things will now improve.

Also, with the ongoing demise of Cleveland Baby Boomer and older generations, Parma may at last be spared from the avalanche of insults piled on it by its arch-nemesis -- Ghoulardi.

Ernie (Ghoulardi) Anderson destroyed Parma's public image for a generation of Greater Clevelanders. Perhaps only "Dorothy" (Dorothy Fuldheim, a highly esteemed Cleveland broadcast news journalist who interviewed Presidents or any other famous visitor to Cleveland) was more mocked by Ghoulardi, suffering an actual decline in her public persona. He constantly played Pete Seeger's "Little Boxes" with clips of Parma and did "Parma Place" skits. Ghoulardi's popularity among Greater Cleveland's youth was pervasive and perhaps comparable to texting among today's youth, so the damage to Parma's reputation endured to this day. Ghoulardi likely was by far the most dominant cult figure in Cleveland's 20th century history.

Although this isn't Parma, or from the Ghoulardi show, it will give you an idea of the impact of the constant derision directed by Ghoulardi at Parma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSpc87Jfr0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoulardi

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment...nie-ghoulardi/

http://www.cleveland.com/tv/index.ss...went_on_t.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Fuldheim

http://www.npr.org/2013/12/28/256115...s-in-punk-rock

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/s...host_ghoulardi

http://blasphuphmusradio.com/2011/10...houlardi-show/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e52cXCrmauc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo8F...&nohtml5=False

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Old 04-06-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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I understand that back in the 1980s, the United States filed a Fair Housing Act complaint against Parma for segregated housing patterns, essentially, denying housing to Blacks and Hispanics, and there was some kind of settlement. I believe the last name of the mayor at the time was Petruska. Times have changed and some Black and Hispanic families live there these days. But there is still a persistent feeling among many, esp on the East Side, that Parma remains a working man's town filled with a lot of angry/hostile, (largely) Eastern European Whites-- a closed society with people speaking broken English and women wearing babushkas. Local radio and TV personalities mocked residents for this and impugning locals' intelligence, citing the ubiquitous front-lawn pink flamingos and calling the town "AMRAP" -- Parma spelled backwards.

There are a few semi-upscale neighborhoods off Ridge Ave (I drove through one when I was over in Parma getting my car fixed in 2012), but blue collar workers still predominate; at least that's what I understand.

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