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Old 01-14-2022, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Near the bottom transit-wise/car-free ability? Really? Who would you put ahead of Cleveland? Indy? Columbus? Detroit? Houston? Memphis? San Antonio? KC, Milwaukee? even Pittsburgh (and they're pretty good). I would agree that service reliability-wise, RTA is far from the best. But structurally, it is a pretty convenient system in my eyes, esp given the compact nature of the City and dense, close-in suburbs -- and even some outer burbs are pretty convenient transit-wise. Honestly, in decent warm weather, I can't think of many places RTA and/or a short Uber-Lyft ride can't take you.
I think the poster is saying Cleveland is a place where you can go car-free, but of other places where you can go car free, it just isn't at the top. I don't think Columbus, Indianapolis, Memphis, Houston etc even qualify. Pittsburgh does. Maybe Buffalo? I don't know what cities exactly we are talking about here, but Cleveland imo is definitely better than Cincinnati, Columbus, KC, Milwaukee, Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Memphis, Nashville. Probably about on par with St Louis and Minneapolis?
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Old 01-14-2022, 07:11 PM
 
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I think the poster is saying Cleveland is a place where you can go car-free, but of other places where you can go car free, it just isn't at the top. I don't think Columbus, Indianapolis, Memphis, Houston etc even qualify. Pittsburgh does. Maybe Buffalo? I don't know what cities exactly we are talking about here, but Cleveland imo is definitely better than Cincinnati, Columbus, KC, Milwaukee, Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Memphis, Nashville. Probably about on par with St Louis and Minneapolis?
Maybe you're right. He did say where car-free living is a "reasonable option." Still, I wonder if Cleveland should rank near the bottom of these, either? Baltimore, St. Louis and a few other mid-size cities have more total rail transit mileage than Cleveland, but I think living car-free in Cleveland is easier... even easier when RTA ran the downtown trolleys and the Waterfront Line.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Maybe you're right. He did say where car-free living is a "reasonable option." Still, I wonder if Cleveland should rank near the bottom of these, either? Baltimore, St. Louis and a few other mid-size cities have more total rail transit mileage than Cleveland, but I think living car-free in Cleveland is easier... even easier when RTA ran the downtown trolleys and the Waterfront Line.
I think it's shameful they got rid of the trolleys and waterfront line. Hopefully maybe next year or so such things come back.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:27 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Near the bottom transit-wise/car-free ability? Really? Who would you put ahead of Cleveland? Indy? Columbus? Detroit? Houston?
You would be surprised about Houston. It has the most extensive bus network in the Southern U.S. and one light rail line alone has the ridership of Dallas' entire light rail system!

Pre-pandemic, the 2015 bus network redesign increased ridership by 6.8% a year with local buses seeing a 13% increase on Saturdays and 34% on Sundays.

Redesigning Bus Networks Can Save Transit Systems - Car Free America

System Reimagining is even influencing bigger cities such as L.A. to copy Houston. There's even a documentary about Houston's bus network redesign!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ack-on-the-bus
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Old 01-15-2022, 01:55 PM
 
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Yes, I meant that most cities don't even make the list of car free living being a realistic option. Cleveland at least crosses that threshold, which is pretty impressive given our population ranking.

Indy, Detroit, etc. don't even make the cut. Living without a car in most of the country is a serious hardship.
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:05 AM
 
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How much is the return on investment if I were to buy a condo in a walkable area in downtown Cleveland and rent it out?
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:13 AM
 
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How much is the return on investment if I were to buy a condo in a walkable area in downtown Cleveland and rent it out?

My understanding is that many condo associations do not allow buy-then-rent purchases.


Nobody can intelligently provide you with a reasonable estimated ROI on any investment without considerable research of that specific investment. With a real estate investment, many factors must be evaluated and estimated for reasonableness before an internal rate of return can even be calculated. In the past, I professionally was in that game.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:40 PM
 
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Thanks WRnative. I'm in Vegas right now and I'm getting sick of the heat. I have a sizeable real estate portfolio here that I would sell off and I'm looking to relocate somewhere nice and cold.
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Old 04-02-2022, 12:06 AM
 
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Thanks WRnative. I'm in Vegas right now and I'm getting sick of the heat. I have a sizeable real estate portfolio here that I would sell off and I'm looking to relocate somewhere nice and cold.

These threads may interest you.


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http://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...tion-ohio.html
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Old 04-02-2022, 07:59 AM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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SSSUUUUHHHHHHSH! !!!! Let's keep Cleveland's low cost of living and desirability a secret.

I was already priced out of one city for life. That's enough.
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