Worst area in Cleveland?

[BelieveInCleve]

Per capita crime is the best way to compare statistics (obviously, but there's only a few other ways to choose from), but with these areas and these rankings it's misleading.

I'll elaborate on it a little more:

Lets use the Cleveland one for example (since we're on the Cleveland forum and it's the most familiar). Euclid to Central from E55th to E70th. This area is mostly vacant/abandoned, not many residential houses/buildings standing, it's in the inner city of Cleveland and directly next to major streets, E55th, Euclid, Carnegie, etc. They are basing how dangerous it is on the population that lives in that area, and in reality most the people committing crimes and having crime committed against them are not even from that area. Even a small amount of crime in that area will make it look horrible on paper. Downtown is an extreme example of this, there's 10k-20k people that live there but in the daytime the population increases by about 80k. It would be wrong to base the crime rate on the 10k-20k population when the area is heavily commercial and normally has 90k+ people there.

Not to mention that if you did a survey in Cleveland on what are the most dangerous, that area would not come up much anymore. Yes, it's bad but to say it's the worst or most dangerous area in Cleveland is false. E79th and Kinsman (and several other areas) are undoubtedly worse but the high population in the projects can make it seem nicer when it's not. I'm also just talking about these specific type of neighborhoods, the same thing does not apply to cities or very large areas the majority of the time.

[b.alexandria]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

Actually, some of the west side areas mentioned are predominantly white and Hispanic. The "worst areas" are almost always the poorest areas for various reasons. Why a higher percentage of African Americans are poor than other races is a whole different discussion.

Cleveland as a whole is very job, rather than career oriented city--most professionals do not live here. This makes it "safer" to be comfortable with a H.S. diploma, but also guaranteeing many folks will have what some would deem lower end jobs. Crime has always thrived more in areas with lower income, as someone pointed out, so this is more of a correlation dealing with income, not so much ethnicity. Also, the majority of blacks in the U.S. are actually middle class, though conversely indeed the have the most poor percentage wise. That sucks, and I won't get deeper into it unless summoned.

Unknown to many, there is a quite a few whites and Latinos living on the eastside of town, especially around Payne Ave. and more or less around E. 79th. I'm surprised no one mentioned that.

Anyway, as someone also mentioned, W. 25th and Pearl, Lorain, ect. is quite bad. Also, some parts around Madison have been deteriorating for some time (haven't been there in a while though, it may not be the case anymore). Many pockets on the eastside are definitely bad, hands down--I myself have lived in Central off of Quincy all my life.

~b.