Why are we down on Cleveland? Heres the answer

[JR_C]

Originally Posted by xwideopenskyx

I've traveled all over US and have never met anyone who thought that those cities had booming ecomomies and low unemployment. At least, not for the last decade +. What Forbes reported isn't new shocking news.

They why did they make the report at all? And why give it such a stupid headline, if not just for attention?

More attention = more money from sponsors = loss of credibility. (for me, at least)

[Chef Boyardee]

Originally Posted by JR_C

They why did they make the report at all? And why give it such a stupid headline, if not just for attention?

More attention = more money from sponsors = loss of credibility. (for me, at least)

Actually, I don't see it that way, but I'm not surprised that some people do. The reality is Free Trade has gutted the economies of those areas and they are dying faster than anywhere else, because WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING IN AMERICA ANYMORE (remember, the exception doesn't prove the rule).

I'm sure many people assume that those areas have stabilized. Well, guess what, they haven't! The loss of manufacturing is still killing America. It destroyed Great Britain and it will do the same thing to America. So, it is news to every American.

[Chef Boyardee]

Remember, Free Trade was supposed to be good for America and "everyone" still seems to think that. So, for them, this article is "news," that they need to be confronted with, at every opportunity.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by xwideopenskyx

I've traveled all over US and have never met anyone who thought that those cities had booming ecomomies and low unemployment. At least, not for the last decade +. What Forbes reported isn't new shocking news.

You are both making the same point.

[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by JR_C

No, the statistics were probably accurate. The headline was fabricated to paint the city in a bad light for no reason. Before Forbes called them "dying," how many people did you know who thought Cleveland, Canton, Datyon, Youngstown, Flint, Detroit, etc. had booming economies and low unemployment?

According to this report there are troubled cities all over the U.S.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/46856.html

[The Cactus Leaguer]

My first reaction to this was simply that geography is destiny. We moved from a manufacturing economy which greatly favored the Great Lakes region, to an information economy where people can work wherever they want... so they are increasingly choosing warmer climates. This may change, but for now, it is what it is.

I'm fascinated at how different cities are coping, since I don't think there is a magic formula to turn it around. There is definitely more vulnerability to the Lyle Lanleys of the world, so you have to be careful. Given what's going on with Cuyahoga County, I think I'm preaching to the choir here.

But in the end, really, who cares what Forbes magazine thinks of Cleveland? Just enjoy your life, count your blessings, and do what you can to make Cleveland a better place to live. If Cleveland continues to "die", so be it... at least your housing will be affordable, you'll have fewer traffic jams, cleaner air and water, and you'll have better amenities than other cities of the same size... which, coincidentally, sounds like just the recipe for a comeback.

[saba2r]

Originally Posted by airics

i'd love to see a 25% tariff, everything comes from china anyway.... get serious... if that happens, the whole country will collapse.. because the american goods cost to much anyway.. what they need to do is stop paying the american automakers $40 bucks an hour to sit on an assembly line.. the good days are over for those guys

Why is it ok for executives who run companies into the ground to make millions but people on an assembly line aren't supposed to make a decent living?

[Chef Boyardee]

Originally Posted by saba2r

Why is it ok for executives who run companies into the ground to make millions but people on an assembly line aren't supposed to make a decent living?

We have a right to demand that the corporations that sell us products, make them here in The United States of America.

[Chef Boyardee]

Originally Posted by The Cactus Leaguer

My first reaction to this was simply that geography is destiny. We moved from a manufacturing economy which greatly favored the Great Lakes region, to an information economy where people can work wherever they want... so they are increasingly choosing warmer climates. This may change, but for now, it is what it is.

Our "information" economy is moving to China.