06-25-2009, 07:29 AM
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Huge deal for the Cavs, really changes the look of the team.
06-25-2009, 07:42 AM
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Huge deal for the Cavs, really changes the look of the team.
Yeah, but they won't need to play Shaq the last 5 minutes of game most of the time, they can sub Z in who hits >80% of his FT's.
06-25-2009, 09:11 AM
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Yeah, but they won't need to play Shaq the last 5 minutes of game most of the time, they can sub Z in who hits >80% of his FT's.
True, but they lose his impact at game's end. James hasn't exactly been great at the line either with the games in doubt, a bit inconsistent.
06-25-2009, 10:47 AM
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I'd take Shaq over Ben Wallace any day.
06-25-2009, 10:57 AM
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If Lebron James leaves it is not his fault. The organization is making this out to be rocket science when its not. Lebron should be the easiest player to build a team around in the nba. They should get either chrish bosh or amarie stoudemire. Shaquille is not the answer unless they get a young athletic poward forward. When Orland do played boston D. Howard did not have his way with perkins. Perkins can not stop him but he made him work for post position and was able to put a body on him. Get either chrish bosh or Amarie stodemire as well as a center that can at least match his physical presence and get younger athletic role players and I think lebron will atleast sign another four year deal.
This isn't NBA2K9. What do you have to offer the Suns for one of the best young players in the game in Amare Stoudamire? What do you have to offer the Raptors for one of the best young players in the game in Chris Bosh? Typically, for super stars, they want top end draft picks. Ours is the very last of the first round. Typically, they want young guys who are going to turn into really good players too, if not all stars. Do we have that? Daniel Gibson isn't that guy, Hickson isn't that guy.
We simply don't have a roster or assets to acquire a guy like that. There has to be a reason for a trade like that to occur -- why on earth would anyone from Phoenix or Toronto do a deal where they give up that guy and get little in return? Just as a note, the Golden State Warriors were offering the #7 pick in the draft, Andris Biedrins (a really talented young center who averages a double-double) OR Anthony Randolph (Golden State's best young player) and possibly something else in the deal. And that deal still didn't get anywhere with Toronto.
Our only option is to sign one of them as a free agent next season, but it's far too premature to say that.
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Huge deal for the Cavs, really changes the look of the team.
Shaq (59.5%) is actually a better free throw shooter than Ben Wallace (42.2%) was. He'll shoot more free throws than Ben Wallace did because he draws far more fouls, but percentage-wise, the swap is actually an improvement.
The good thing about this deal is:
1. They gave up a pile of oranges for him.
2. Pavlovic will be released by Phoenix in a cost-cutting move so if we want him back we can.
3. Shaq's going to be motivated because he has an opportunity to assist Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, and Lebron James to titles. Not to mention, it could be his last season in the NBA. Not to mention, a title puts him 1+ on Kobe.
4. It's just a 1-year deal. If it doesn't work, not only does it only last 1 season, but he's also an all-important expiring contract which can be used in a blockbuster deal mid-season.
The only thing I'll say is that I wish it would have happened last season based on how irrelevent Ben and Sasha were in the Conference Finals.
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06-25-2009, 11:15 AM
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Shaq and Kobe made a great combination, I hope he can revitalize the Cavs and do the same with LeBron and the rest of the guys.
06-27-2009, 04:13 PM
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Shaq and Kobe made a great combination, I hope he can revitalize the Cavs and do the same with LeBron and the rest of the guys.
They dont need revitalized, they already are one of the NBA's best teams. They need people around Lebron, thats all.
So we know about Shaq. Any other big names coming to the Cavs? They have the market...
06-28-2009, 04:56 PM
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Before they made the trade for shaq they could have gave up people that were at the end of their contracts or had a year left like wallace, wally syzerbiak, and joe smith. I gaurantee that the raptors will not be able to sign chrish bosh. He is going to be a free agent along with Lebron and alot of of top notch players. Phoenix is in the same situation, that is why they gave up shaq for basically nothing because they wanted to dump salary and be in the sweepstakes for 2010 free angency. That is the only way it can work. We were in the best situation to get pretty much what ever we wanted because of contracts that will be expired soon. I am not saying that Shaq is a bad move because it's not I am saying that they need a young athletic poward forward that can move the defense out on the perimeter. Actually now more than ever because Shaq will not be anywhere on the floor but around the paint area. If andy starts who is going to come off the bench. Joe smith is done. It does not matter what you actually do doing the regular season it is the playoffs that matter. He completely dissapered in the rotation during the conference finals. JJ. hickson and Darnell Jackson are no where near ready. I like Andy but I like him better coming off the bench. He does not play the pick and roll that well. I know it is early but if Shaq does not work out even with his contract done we still will not be in any better position than what we were at the beggining of the offseason. We still will need another center and maybe another one to replace Z. as well. I am not sure that he is going to worth that much at this point in his career. I belive that next year he is at the end of his contract. From the way that management is talking they almost sound content with the move like it is going to put us over the top when it won't. With a healthy Kevin Garnett and big Baby who mad a huge stride last season that will cause problems with our poward forward rotation looking the way it is. If the Cavaliers do not make a significant move with a YOUNG PROVEN PLAYER at the poward foward position the Cavs will not win the title.
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hey sleepy eyes the offseason just started give it time! we still have alot of time to pic someone up we can still trade wally and z witchwe might do so just cool down and wait we all no we need a pf who can stretch the d but we have time
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Wally is an expired contract, so he is a free agent. The Cavs don't "own" him anymore.
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People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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