Lorain is a Joke (Cleveland, Cincinnati: rentals, live in, stores)

[BelieveInCleve]

Lorain is taking the worst of it.

Were already in bad economic times right now. Along with those lost jobs I heard another whole factory is going to close down. Lorain schools are already horrible right now and the levy didnt pass so there going to get even worse. I didnt think it was possible but this city is continuing to go downhill. 26% poverty, very high unemployment, gangs, decay, horrible schools, very high crime. Lorains just not a nice place right now.

[BelieveInCleve]

This is more of what Im talking about:

Justice Department to probe Lorain police
by Associated Press
Saturday November 22, 2008, 1:42 PM

LORAIN -- The Justice Department has told Lorain city officials it's investigating potential violations involving the police department's use of force.

Lorain Mayor Anthony Krasienko said the city received the letter Thursday from the federal agency.

Krasienko stresses that Justice probe, which stems from a complaint, is a civil investigation not involving criminal allegations.

Krasienko said the government will look mainly at the city's police policies and procedures.

Grace Chung Becker, acting assistant attorney general, said the agency will seek to determine whether there are systemic constitutional violations involving use of force by Lorain police.

Cleveland, OH Crime & Police News with The Plain Dealer - cleveland.com

[s_pjr]

The crime rate is higher in Cleveland than it is in Cinci, so... As for Lorain and Elyria, the "thugs" "gangsters" in those two places aren't nearly as hard as the dudes from Cleveland, but both cities have their places. I have been to all parts of both cities and never once gave two ****s about the people around me, or worried about what they were going to do. Cleveland on the other hand you have to watch your ass in neighborhoods. lorain does have a problem with crime, but look at the amount of murders and there isn't many at all, there were 7 murders in 2007. Really not that bad. Elyria, there was 1. Cleveland in 2007 had somewhere around 176... Cinci had 63... Youngstown had 42. Lorain County isn't that bad, like everyother county it has cities with a high crime rate, but in terms of this argument Cleveland is by far the worst. Elyria has 55,000+ people, one murder isn't bad. Lorain has 68,000+ people, 7 murders aint that bad, youngstown has 82,000+ 42 murders is moving up, and Cleveland with 440,000 plus having 176 isn't too good, and cinci has like 330,000, 63 murders is, ehh, not good but not terrible.

[s_pjr]

The crime rate is higher in Cleveland than it is in Cinci, so... As for Lorain and Elyria, the "thugs" "gangsters" in those two places aren't nearly as hard as the dudes from Cleveland, but both cities have their places. I have been to all parts of both cities and never once gave two ****s about the people around me, or worried about what they were going to do. Cleveland on the other hand you have to watch your ass in neighborhoods. lorain does have a problem with crime, but look at the amount of murders and there isn't many at all, there were 7 murders in 2007. Really not that bad. Elyria, there was 1. Cleveland in 2007 had somewhere around 176... Cinci had 63... Youngstown had 42. Lorain County isn't that bad, like everyother county it has cities with a high crime rate, but in terms of this argument Cleveland is by far the worst. Elyria has 55,000+ people, one murder isn't bad. Lorain has 68,000+ people, 7 murders aint that bad, youngstown has 82,000+ 42 murders is moving up, and Cleveland with 440,000 plus having 176 isn't too good, and cinci has like 330,000, 63 murders is, ehh, not good but not terrible.

[s_pjr]

The crime rate is higher in Cleveland than it is in Cinci, so... As for Lorain and Elyria, the "thugs" "gangsters" in those two places aren't nearly as hard as the dudes from Cleveland, but both cities have their places. I have been to all parts of both cities and never once gave two ****s about the people around me, or worried about what they were going to do. Cleveland on the other hand you have to watch your ass in neighborhoods. lorain does have a problem with crime, but look at the amount of murders and there isn't many at all, there were 7 murders in 2007. Really not that bad. Elyria, there was 1. Cleveland in 2007 had somewhere around 176... Cinci had 63... Youngstown had 42. Lorain County isn't that bad, like everyother county it has cities with a high crime rate, but in terms of this argument Cleveland is by far the worst. Elyria has 55,000+ people, one murder isn't bad. Lorain has 68,000+ people, 7 murders aint that bad, youngstown has 82,000+ 42 murders is moving up, and Cleveland with 440,000 plus having 176 isn't too good, and cinci has like 330,000, 63 murders is, ehh, not good but not terrible.

[s_pjr]

Sorry, I don't know why it posted so many times.

[Buckeye 89]

Cleveland didn't have 176, Not sure what the count was. But i know it wasn't 176

[s_pjr]

my bad it was like 140, I don't know why I put 176

[BelieveInCleve]

Sorry, but your post is very off as far as the stats.

(2007) Cleveland had 135 murders last year (although many say there were much more). Lorain had 9, not 7. Elyria had at least 2, and averages more. The Southside of Elyria is much worse than the city average. I believe Youngstown had 39, not 42. It is true that Cleveland and Youngstown are the worst in Ohio. East Cleveland also, it had 12 murders last year and a very high crime rate, really bad for a city of 27,000. It seems a lot of the central urban areas in NE Ohio have a pretty bad problem with crime. Canton is rough too and even Akrons crime rate is pretty high now, I believe it had around 30 homicides last year.

[s_pjr]

Cle440, yea some of those numbers sound a bit more accurate, I was estimating based on numbers I had seen last year. The southside of Elyria, if it were it's own city would look like crime was out of control, but like you said as a whole city it's not too bad. Canton is a rough area, but in terms of homocides it's not to bad, but drug use there is pretty bad. We can't forget Toledo either, the crime rate and murdre rate there is rising year after year.