I Need Reasons why I should buy a home in Cleveland (Cleveland Heights: appointed, credit)

[Chef Boyardee]

The best way to survive and thrive in a Cleveland Winter is to get a rear wheel vehicle, with a very large V-8 engine. Then, take it out and see if you can do some doughnuts

[airics]

Originally Posted by LewLew

Very sad for you. I am in the process of moving back to Cleveland. I have lived all over the US, and am coming back b/c of the great things Cleveland does have. Winter can be lovely, even on the grey days...if you aren't a depressed person. I know people get Seasonal Depression (so please don't come back at me with that), but knowing that winter is just a season like all others, and you can escape on a vacation to rejuve...comm'on.
Cleveland has some of the best schools. I currently reside in FL which has sun year round..BUT..it has crap schools, bugs the size of TX, fire ants in every lawn, Blazing heat that makes your a** stick to your car seat, nothing but retirees who will never pass a tax levy to help the area, no museums, culture, arts, everyone is transient~ so their is no hometown pride, no sports teams (for the most part...and if they have them, their fans suck b/c they go to the games to see the teams they grew up with play..), and I could go on. There are NO JOBS in FL, and if you find one, you'll make 1/2 what you make anywhere north of Georgia. Ohio is suffering the same as most of the country. You sound bitter and your comments are so grossly overblown. I'm sorry if something horrible is happening to you, but Cleveland actually has a lot to offer most people.
On that note...got an email from one of the managers I oversee. This person is from the Southeast originally, but currently residing in TX. When he found out we were moving back to Cleveland...he said "Good for you, Cleveland is a great town. I worked there for a couple years on a project, and I really enjoyed it. The winters are rough, but overall...you are making a great move". Now, that came from someone who has lived in 30 of the 50 states.

I'm not saying that Cleveland is the worst place to live but you are in for a rude awakening. Give it 6 months from when you get here.

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by airics

I'm not saying that Cleveland is the worst place to live but you are in for a rude awakening. Give it 6 months from when you get here.

About what? Why do people say these things as if everyone sees the world through the same prism?

[Chef Boyardee]

Originally Posted by Clevelander17

About what? Why do people say these things as if everyone sees the world through the same prism?

Wether people "see" things the same way or not, has absolutely no bearing on what is real and what isn't.

[blabber]

Good feedback. Because we want to live in Shaker or Cleveland Heights where taxes are sick (Shaker in particular), population is declining, demographics are marginal, and schools questionable...to slowing declining (in Shaker...CH as most of you know already blows) it makes sense to rent. I'll pay the taxes in the form of higher rent but won't have to deal with the repair bills (or the worry) of having to deal with a 60+ year old home. We'll take our cash and invest in rental properties in the south where we can break even on cash flow but know (or at least of higher probability) that long term, due to population growth and selective acquisition in supply constrained infill locations that the value will increase.

To an earlier point, it is fairly expensive to rent in these two submarkets because of the demand for rental property thanks to the Clinic, Case and schools in Shaker (today), so we'll pay a premium, but for the flexibility to move and not have to worry about price depreciation or god forbid selling home a home in Cleveland (suburbs) it's probably worth it.

It's easy to say if you know you'll be somewhere for longer than 5 years than it makes sense to buy but in my situation, while I'd love to be settled for 5 years + who really knows.

[airics]

Originally Posted by Clevelander17

About what? Why do people say these things as if everyone sees the world through the same prism?

she's not even here yet, that's all i am saying.. let's see if she's tooting the same horn in 6 months... how possibly can you say a place is so great if you dont live here or haven't for years.. Heck, maybe she'll love it... but lets see..
I don't hate Cleveland... however i don't love it either..

[Boffo]

Originally Posted by airics

she's not even here yet, that's all i am saying.. let's see if she's tooting the same horn in 6 months... how possibly can you say a place is so great if you dont live here or haven't for years.. Heck, maybe she'll love it... but lets see..
I don't hate Cleveland... however i don't love it either..

I'm pretty sure she is a native from the area. And how come every time someone says they like Cleveland, the anti-Cleveland crowd has to jump in and tell us how bad Cleveland is?

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by blabber

Good feedback. Because we want to live in Shaker or Cleveland Heights where taxes are sick (Shaker in particular), population is declining, demographics are marginal, and schools questionable...to slowing declining (in Shaker...CH as most of you know already blows) it makes sense to rent. I'll pay the taxes in the form of higher rent but won't have to deal with the repair bills (or the worry) of having to deal with a 60+ year old home. We'll take our cash and invest in rental properties in the south where we can break even on cash flow but know (or at least of higher probability) that long term, due to population growth and selective acquisition in supply constrained infill locations that the value will increase.

To an earlier point, it is fairly expensive to rent in these two submarkets because of the demand for rental property thanks to the Clinic, Case and schools in Shaker (today), so we'll pay a premium, but for the flexibility to move and not have to worry about price depreciation or god forbid selling home a home in Cleveland (suburbs) it's probably worth it.

It's easy to say if you know you'll be somewhere for longer than 5 years than it makes sense to buy but in my situation, while I'd love to be settled for 5 years + who really knows.

The biggest problem with Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights is the high taxes. That said, you can find some good deals on nice houses in these areas and if there's a time to buy, it's now. I don't know if there are many other areas in the entire country that offer such quality houses for very affordable prices like one can find in CH and SH. And in the nicer areas of each respective city, "marginal demographics" aren't an issue.

[jam40jeff]

Originally Posted by Chef Boyardee

Wether people "see" things the same way or not, has absolutely no bearing on what is real and what isn't.

That would be true for factual items. However, it was opinion that was being presented.

[airics]

Originally Posted by Boffo

I'm pretty sure she is a native from the area. And how come every time someone says they like Cleveland, the anti-Cleveland crowd has to jump in and tell us how bad Cleveland is?

native from "years ago" things and times change.... and did i say how bad cleveland is? just don't glorify a place that you haven't been to in years...