Amazed and disappointed (Cleveland, Shaker Heights: low income, sales, vehicle registration)

[Dbl-r]

I have been researching the cleveland market for potential housing and residence as I am soon to take a job in the area. I am totally amazed and disappointed in the dollars you folks pay in taxes. In my search I see homes priced from 150k to 250k with an annual tax between 3500 to almost 5000. I understand now why Cleveland has a declining population! I cannot bring myself to pay 300 to over 400 a month in taxes. Just an observation from an outsider looking to come in. Wow I feel for you folks.

[YaFace]

You think Ohio is bad, try New England. You are gonna be taxed somewhere by government, Ohio it just happens you are taxed on property. What Blisstonia paradise do you live now, and what are the taxes on similar houses there?

[jam40jeff]

In the city of Cleveland, the property taxes are substantially lower. The rates you are quoting are most likely in Shaker Heights, who has the highest tax rate around. Of course, in Cleveland, you aren't getting a good public school system, so it depends on what you want.

The South does have lower property taxes, but they also have atrocious county public school systems.

[vicket]

Try paying property tax in Texas...you'll cry to have Ohio's rates.

[jam40jeff]

Besides, in Ohio there is no property tax on your vehicle, and vehicle registration is almost nothing compared to most states. Basically, all states are getting their money from you one way or another.

[Dbl-r]

Originally Posted by YaFace

You think Ohio is bad, try New England. You are gonna be taxed somewhere by government, Ohio it just happens you are taxed on property. What Blisstonia paradise do you live now, and what are the taxes on similar houses there?

Not quite sure it's Blisstonia however it is near the outter banks of NC and I live in a community of 300k homes and my annual tax to live there is less than $1000.00.

[Dbl-r]

Originally Posted by jam40jeff

In the city of Cleveland, the property taxes are substantially lower. The rates you are quoting are most likely in Shaker Heights, who has the highest tax rate around. Of course, in Cleveland, you aren't getting a good public school system, so it depends on what you want.

The South does have lower property taxes, but they also have atrocious county public school systems.

I was referring to Cuyahoga county in general as it appears most of the city of Cleveland is in those boundries.

[jam40jeff]

All of the city of Cleveland is well within the boundaries of Cuyahoga County. There are over 100 separate municipalities within Cuyahoga County (hence the regionalization thread) and property taxes vary widely between them.

[AndyF667]

What is homeowners prop.insurance near the coast? Doesnt NC have a highway tax and a vehicle property tax? And I believe the state tax is a couple points higher in NC. And grocery's are taxed.

I think basically you going to pay one way or another. In Ohio, we dont have highway use tax, vehicle property tax, or tax on groceries. So, in some cases property tax can look steep. Its all relative.

[ottomobeale]

Taxes vary widely and not all states live up to their reps. NC is a low tax state... no it isnt.

TX. NO state income tax. Med high property tax. Medium high sales tax.
NJ. Low to moderate income tax (until you get well into the $100Ks), CRUSHING property tax. Medium sales tax exempting food medicine and clothes.
TN. Very low income tax only basically unearned income. lower property tax, CRUSHING sales tax that does not exclude food.
OH. HIGH income tax if you include the 2-3% the cities also take. medium high property tax. high sales tax.
MA. High income tax. Medium Property tax. Medium sales tax exempting food medicine clothes.
FL NO income tax. High property tax. High sales tax (paid by out of staters visiting)

Some states have zingers. EX: MA, NC get you on your car EVERY year. FL has crushing property insurance. (not a tax but...)