Cabin Fever

[Beavercreek33]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

'Change your name??....'

Some reading material to give you some insight..

How the Crash Will Reshape America - The Atlantic (March 2009)

Was I talking to you? I was talking to ClevelandMike, pay attention there.

[Beavercreek33]

The site you listed, it not responding for me...

Anyway, here are the current numbers out.

Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows

Charlotte's banking industry is getting slammed, diversification is needed in a job market. Just look at Detroit, too heavily dependent on the auto industry.

Cleveland realized back in the 1980s that it needed to change its economy around. Now Cleveland has one of the best medical based economies in North America, and people come from all over the world to the Cleveland Clinic for help. Like I said before, go to Uptown around the Cleveland Clinic and University Circle, there are construction cranes everywhere.

Cleveland is also watching its tech field boom. I read an article, in the last two years, NE Ohio has watched almost 27,000 new tech jobs move in. Most of the technology sector is coming from the health field, and a very strong area in the time of a recession.

Cleveland is also a big banking city, and has been hurt hard by it (National City)

Keep the bank industry, its a trillion dollar business, but diversify a little.

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

'Change your name??....'

Some reading material to give you some insight..

How the Crash Will Reshape America - The Atlantic (March 2009)

Nothing is set in stone. If 30-40 years ago had someone said that Charlotte would explode with growth in the coming decades, they would have been called crazy. Ohio's biggest problem isn't the weather, it's the economy and terrible local leadership. Those things can be changed.

[ZnGuy]

Originally Posted by Beavercreek33

The site you listed, it not responding for me...

Anyway, here are the current numbers out.

Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows

Charlotte's banking industry is getting slammed, diversification is needed in a job market. Just look at Detroit, too heavily dependent on the auto industry.

Cleveland realized back in the 1980s that it needed to change its economy around. Now Cleveland has one of the best medical based economies in North America, and people come from all over the world to the Cleveland Clinic for help. Like I said before, go to Uptown around the Cleveland Clinic and University Circle, there are construction cranes everywhere.

Cleveland is also watching its tech field boom. I read an article, in the last two years, NE Ohio has watched almost 27,000 new tech jobs move in. Most of the technology sector is coming from the health field, and a very strong area in the time of a recession.

Cleveland is also a big banking city, and has been hurt hard by it (National City)

Keep the bank industry, its a trillion dollar business, but diversify a little.

That is great news to hear of job growth in medical field, hopefully it works out.
You are correct about Banking being a big industry here (although only about 5% of total jobs), I suppose there may be somewhere near 50,000 jobs between BofA and WF, not sure how many jobs the BofA Merrill Lynch purchase will bring but there are many companies that are looking to locate here because of high numbers of talented educated professionals. I think that banking is obviously critical to the US economy and if the 2 main banks here don't succeed then the whole US economy is in trouble. Unfortunately the unemployment rate is over 10%, mainly due to the large number of people looking to migrate to this area (50,000+/yr), mostly from the north and many are coming assuming they will look for job when they arrive thus add to rate. One huge project that will attract many high paying jobs is the $1.5 Billion Biotech Research Center project that is well on it's way Conference highlights Research Campus role in emerging biotech economy | The Kannapolis Citizen & Researcher
There is word (MacRumor source) that officials are negotiating tax abatement with Apple to invest $1 Billion in a project in Charlotte area. Google Data Center recently put a $600 million facility in nearby Lenoir. There is movement to making Charlotte an 'Energy Hub'm for R+D (Duke Energy is based here). I'd say there is diversification for the next new economy.

[soooma]

Originally Posted by drb85650

Ok, everybody from Cleveland area tells us how you're stuck inside for months unending due to constant snow. Can't get out, can't go for walks, aboslutely nothing to do.
So how bad is it? Are there literally weeks of trapped inside, trudging to work and barely making it, unable to do anything but hibernate?
Thought I was prepped for the winters back there, now this......or is it a line of bs?

Check the photos carefully ,,, and I don't think that I could manage to get the worst because then we really don't get out,,, but you can say those can represent Cleveland when the winter gets bad.

If you have any more questions let me know,,, but still I love Cleveland in the summer,,, but couldn't handle the winters so I am moving in a few weeks to NC .

Days like these would be in MHOpinion about 10 to 20 days a year,,, and sometimes the snow lingers on for 2 weeks to really clear up, and after that few days later it hits again,,,, but to be honest last year was really bad,,, and pushed me to move out,,, though in this very nice summer I kinds have second thoughts but too late

But don't get me wrong,,, Cleveland is a very nice place to live in "in non winter times",,, Put in Bay is really something I probably visited 20 or more times in less than 3 years!!!

[jam40jeff]

Yes, we can get dumped on with snow. But photos like that represent about 3 days out of the year tops.

[drb85650]

Originally Posted by soooma

Check the photos carefully ,,, and I don't think that I could manage to get the worst because then we really don't get out,,, but you can say those can represent Cleveland when the winter gets bad.

If you have any more questions let me know,,, but still I love Cleveland in the summer,,, but couldn't handle the winters so I am moving in a few weeks to NC .

Days like these would be in MHOpinion about 10 to 20 days a year,,, and sometimes the snow lingers on for 2 weeks to really clear up, and after that few days later it hits again,,,, but to be honest last year was really bad,,, and pushed me to move out,,, though in this very nice summer I kinds have second thoughts but too late

But don't get me wrong,,, Cleveland is a very nice place to live in "in non winter times",,, Put in Bay is really something I probably visited 20 or more times in less than 3 years!!!

Thanks for the input. Frankly we're more concerned about the gray days than the snow, being used to sunshine. But we can adapt.
One thing for sure.....not moving to NC !!!!!!

[xwideopenskyx]

Originally Posted by drb85650

Thanks! We came out last October(to Cleveland), had a blast and loved it all. We are well aware of the job market, but have funds to live for at least 12-18 months if need be.
Anybody here work at Cleveland Clinic? Job openings there fit the wifes background, even a couple I'm qualified for. Imagine they have a gigantic application load for each position. Benefits look terrific, what's the insurance cost for employee only? any ideas?

And you're right about Arizona, it's a acquired taste. Sometimes that comes from years of snow and cold, probably why those we know here that are from Ohio think we're nuts.

Hey DRB, where do you live in AZ? I lived in Cleveland for 25 years and moved out to the Tucson area in 2006. People thought that I was nuts for moving to AZ, but I love it here. I did visit AZ many times and planned my relocation carefully for a few years. So you can say, I knew exactly what to expect and had no surprises. I selected the location based on my own
requirements and have been happy here since.

How many times have you been to Cleveland? October is generally a beautiful month in Cleveland. If you haven't spent much time in Cleveland, may I suggest that you visit in the middle of summer and winter? I highly recommend that you form your own opinions based on your own experiences as opposed to opinions of others on this forum. As you can see much of it turns into a p-s-ing contest.

Good luck on your move.

[nest27]

Originally Posted by drb85650

I'd heard about that, the area northeast of city especially. Now, can you tell me about mosquito/humidity at its worst and what time of year?

The Humidity often gets it's worst around July and August..... But it's definately tolerable. This Year actually wasn't even a real hot summer. We only had maybe less than 10 days where it even felt like summer. I used my A/C only a few times this year and got by with having the windows open the rest of the time. As far as mosquitoes go.... it depends on the area in which you live...... but overall they aren't unbearable either. They were never so bad that it stopped me from going outside. Hope this helps!

[Peregrine]

I love how sidetracked everyone gets. Cracks me up.
I do hibernate all winter. Not because I hate winter, but because I spent all my money over the warmer months (because there is so much to do here) and I need a few months to restock the bank account so I can enjoy next summer again. lol

Totally kidding, of course. I am out most of the winter, too. I think Cabin Fever really refers to the fact that we do more indoor activites in the winter. Can't really Barbeque or ride the motorcycle in the winter. Still plenty to do though.