2007 Cleveland Homicides (Columbus, Cincinnati, Toledo: town, near, young)

[BelieveInCleve]

Anyone that lives in an average Cleveland neighborhood knows its a rough city. I love the city and it has a lot to do but once you get out of downtown or University Circle its all very rough looking. I would like to see the city do a lot better than it is right now. The city is taking steps to become better with the Euclid Corridor Project and others but it needs to do a lot more than that. We need to attract jobs and I would like to see Cleveland become a better city than it has ever been in the past. I would like to see another beach be made maybe artificially, and I would like to see more of a gold coast on the westside and the Eastside, not just in Lakewood. I would like to see the vacant lots be filled with older looking, but modern row houses/duplexes/and single family houses. I would also like to see nicer streets and less abandoned homes. Cleveland is already a good city but it has potential to be a great city, and it has the potential to grow.

[Cincy-Rise]

^ The best way to do this is to get average, crime-abiding citizens in these areas. Black, white, asian ... it doesn't matter. Once this happens, crime will be reported, but people must call the cops every-time something happens. Once criminals know there's someone out there that will call the cops, rather than not care ... they'll be more reluctant to commit the crime.

Everything else will follow (see: shopping mall/subdivision sequence). If people run out to the suburbs, crime will eventually follow. Sociology 101 teaches this. It's inevitable ... you'll (not you) be running for the rest of your lives.

I'm speaking from a present experience. Walking the walk per say ...

[gtsurfer05]

In Cleveland is not that people don't call the police, or don't want to. Its that response time is so horrible, Police don't show up for hours, if even at all, so why call the cops then. People will end up and have taken the law into their own hands. Only when you get the police system to start working again, then people will start having more faith in them

[you1243]

ohio has been getting worse the big 8 cities have murders left in right and theres lots in akron statistics dont show

[you1243]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Why would the FBI Report say that Cleveland only had 75 when it had 119 murders? I checked the numbers for Detroit, Cincinnati, and Columbus and all of their numbers are right, Cleveland is the only one thats messed up. For a city of Toledos size to only have 11 murders is crazy, thats actually considered safe. Akron had 18 murders so far, and Columbus and Cincinnati are both around 60 something i think. Cleveland is the only city in Ohio doing really bad right now with about 114 murders.

I think the fbi repots are wrong . there are probably more than 119. same with the other cities because i know of five people just on akrons north side who were killed within a three month period of time.

[you1243]

Originally Posted by hillside

why do ppl get so offended?

cle440:
we know cleveland's tough. just bc im the first dont mean im wrong...i said ppl frm the lake living in nati thought cinci was worse...you say ppl on this blog say cle is worse...whats the diff?

1watertiger:

if cleveland was misreported, then you proved my point about trusting stats. if murder stats can be wrong, overall crime stats has to be a crapshoot.

cleveland has more open space and lots to enhance the effect whereas cinci is older, denser and slummier. each to his own, ok? truthfully the two cities are so similar in struggle that its splitting hairs when you consider crime, schools, corruption, economy, etc. let me clear this up...there are 10 cities i consider to be inherently bad. some of our best, but definitely our worst.

worst of the worst...no order

new orleans
detroit
baltimore
dc
st louis

a hair under...no order

cincinnati
cleveland
philly
miami
oakland

worst of worst:

baltimore
dc
miami
detroit
new orleans

hair under:

cle.
cin.
bronx
orlando
and2 many more 2 say

[BelieveInCleve]

Miamis crime rate is actually a lot lower now. Its nowhere near being a Detroit or Cleveland.

Also Cleveland was ranked the 11th most dangerous city this year and Cincinnati was ranked 28th. Thats a pretty big difference and if you look at the actual numbers its much larger.
11. Cleveland-255.80
15. Youngstown-234.56
26. Dayton-171.29
28. Cincinnati-168.22
43. Columbus-138.05
46. Canton-133.36
64. Toledo-107.73
79. Akron-98.22
300. Parma-(32.75)

[you1243]

sorry to tellu miami might be true but there is no way canton is a worse place than akron

[you1243]

and i would have to say toledos worse than canton and dayton

[you1243]

i lived in canton and you never heard about crimes and murders .. i live in akron now and here of murders,shootings,and robberies all of the time