2007 Cleveland Homicides (Columbus, Akron, Newark: crime, how much, school)

[CantonzOwn]

Well from what I see when I visit and what I see on the news there aren't many steps being taken to help better the eastside but instead they keep on adding to the westside to make it more attractive. The city needs to ignore the westside for a while and deal with the eastside.

[BelieveInCleve]

Its easy to see that the Eastside of Cleveland has a higher crime rate than the Westside, but the westside is nothing nice either. The westside doesnt have any completely abandoned neighborhoods with all vacant lots and boarded up houses which the Eastside has many areas like that. I noticed that the westside does have some areas that has a lot of boarded up houses, and a few vacant lots, but theyre usually mixed in with nicer fixed up old houses. Both sides of Cleveland have a problem though. There are gangs on both sides of Cleveland and crime on both sides of Cleveland.

[ClevelandRocks!!]

This trend is not just local it is a national trend. This is the second year the murder rates have risen in the US. Big cities on average had an increase of 6.7 percent. Philadelphia and San Antonio's crime rose 10 percent so far. Violent Crime on the Rise in U.S. Cities - Newsweek National News - MSNBC.com [/url]

So this isn't just a local thing. It is a trend that started a couple years ago and well I guess we are going with that trend. It doesn't seem like its really a local cause but a broad cause such as the decline of economy. Also all other crimes in Cleveland are actually DOWN from the years previous such as robbberies. As a nation however robberies are up 6.7 percent.

[Buckeye 89]

Same ol..Same ol

Columbus is right up there with Cleveland...Cincinnatti is just wild right now though..Whats the numbers on them

[BelieveInCleve]

Columbus is nowhere near as bad as Cleveland. Columbus has 250,000 more people then Cleveland in the city and Cleveland had MORE murders than Columbus last year. Cincinnati and Youngstown are better than Cleveland but there still in the top 25 most dangerous cities in the country. 7th most dangerous is Cleveland, #9 Youngstown, #18 Cincinnati, Columbus isnt anywhere near the top 25.

[Buckeye 89]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Columbus is nowhere near as bad as Cleveland. Columbus has 250,000 more people then Cleveland in the city and Cleveland had MORE murders than Columbus last year. Cincinnati and Youngstown are better than Cleveland but there still in the top 25 most dangerous cities in the country. 7th most dangerous is Cleveland, #9 Youngstown, #18 Cincinnati, Columbus isnt anywhere near the top 25.

Columbus was 6 or 7 on the top ten with 500,000 or more population. If they didnt include all of the giant suburbs Columbus would be the same size or maybe even smaller than Cleveland...There for it would be ranked right in the mix between cleveland and cincinnati...More people dont mean anything in reality when comparing these type of stuff...99% of the time theres no murders coming out of the suburbs, They dont add anything to the statistics...Cleveland has more ghettos than columbus and last year they only had 10-15 more murders than columbus

[Buckeye 89]

Same goes with Nati...They have more notorious hoods known for crime and columbus had more murders than them

[BelieveInCleve]

Actually if Cleveland was the same size as Columbus it would have about 160 murders last year instead of 120. There are other cities in Cuyahoga County that get a good amount of murders. Euclid, and East Cleveland both get at least 6 murders a year and Lakewood usually has a couple but for the most part most murders happen in Cleveland.

[Minnehahapolitan]

I'll answer a question from the last page, Cleveland's crime has gone up because larger cities have succeeded in conquering a majority of their crime. New York is one of the safest metros of any consequential size. Los Angeles is improving also. As they improve, gang members move out. They tend to prefer medium-sized cities (Minneapolis, milwaukee, Saint Louis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh) where the police are less equipped to cope with the problem. My city, Mpls. has seen the beginnings of the next step in the pattern. Mpls. crime isn't good, but we are nothing like Cleveland. As crime has generally decreaded in the City since the mid-90s (Murderapolis),and the yuppification of alot of the city has begun, crime has moved to interior suburbs where police are even less well equipped to do anything. (google cities like Richfield and Brooklyn Park, Minn.) These towns have populations of about 30,000 and 60,000. Their populations are older and as they sell off their small, post-war homes, an unpleasent clientele tends to move in. The same effect accounts for an increase of crime in outstate Minnesota. Places like Farmington and Northfield have experienced a growth in drug arrests and addiction (esp. among the young). These are just county seat type towns, hardly ready for an influx of problems, no matter how small. (I'm not saying that some of these cities are unlivable now, but the problem common among them is growing.)These problems aren't insumontable, esp. for larger cities. Ex., Mpls. is installing a city wide Wi-Fi system. It will allow the MPD to monitor larger areas. There is also a system which detects gunshots. Mopre technology, more coppers, more funding, et. cetera. will solve the situation in time. Remember, it was relatively recently that NYC took control of crime (it didn't look up in the 80s). They moved quickly. We have the opportunity to do the same.

[Buckeye 89]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Actually if Cleveland was the same size as Columbus it would have about 160 murders last year instead of 120.

no. Your slow...You missed the point..population has nothing to do with stats in reality.