04-20-2010, 05:54 PM
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Who says we don't laugh, Llew? But, the dude isn't refreshing, he's an ugly, ignorant, spoiled moron who, as expected, was forced to eat his words on national TV. Besides, half the fun is getting under his skin in return. Are you suggesting we all go to the Q and agree with him? Should we cheer for him and hold up signs that say, "Yeah, Joakim, you're right...and, we love you!"
Actually, Joakim had a great game last night. So he does back up his words.
And I have to disagree, he is refreshing. You'd probably think so as well, if you lived in any other city besides Cleveland.
Nothing wrong with booing him either, but lots of people seemed genuinely shocked and offended. I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
04-20-2010, 06:55 PM
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Cleveland doesn't have HALF the gang, drug, and murder scene chicago has. Unless of course, noah is into that sort of thing, which i wouldn't put it past him.
Not really true, at least in terms of per capita. Chicago also has more city neighborhoods where you can isolate yourself from that kind of thing. There are some pretty crazy things going down in the Chicago ghettos though. Over 40 people got shot here a couple weekends ago. With Noah, yeah he is kind of a d-bag.
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I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
So what's your point? You could say that about the majority of cities in this country. Not everywhere can be some big tourist mecca.
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04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
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Actually, Joakim had a great game last night. So he does back up his words.
His team lost by 10 points. He backed up nothing. Individual acheivement (by detraction, in his case) at this point means absolutely nada.
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And I have to disagree, he is refreshing. You'd probably think so as well, if you lived in any other city besides Cleveland.
Nah. I'd think the same. He's a douchebag no matter where I live.
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Nothing wrong with booing him either, but lots of people seemed genuinely shocked and offended. I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
They weren't. They just decided to hit back. If you take that as shock and offense, so be it.
2 Days, huh? Let me guess...you got your ass kicked one night in the Warehouse District by a frat boy in a striped shirt and rolled the next night at the Crazy Horse by the girl who told you she loved you?
04-20-2010, 08:01 PM
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Llewelyn
Actually, Joakim had a great game last night. So he does back up his words.
And I have to disagree, he is refreshing. You'd probably think so as well, if you lived in any other city besides Cleveland.
Nothing wrong with booing him either, but lots of people seemed genuinely shocked and offended. I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
He did have a great game, but they lost, so really it means nothing.
Refreshing? Is that the word you want to choose? Seems to me he is kind of a loose cannon. For example, his comments on Kevin Garnett. I think Garnett is a horses-ass, but to publicly call him dirty? I think that is just stupid. If Lebron called him dirty, I think that would be stupid.
Was I shocked? Offended? Nah, I just put him in the horses-ass column.
Is he a good player? Well he is in the NBA, so he has to have some talent. Will he ever lead any team to the finals. No way in hell.
I love Chicago. I love Cleveland. I have lived in both cities. I just hate stupid people (not you, Joakim)
04-20-2010, 08:06 PM
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So what's your point? You could say that about the majority of cities in this country. Not everywhere can be some big tourist mecca.
To add to what you said, I don't really find any big city to be a worthwhile tourist destination unless you have something specific in mind. This includes Chicago and NYC. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against either of them and enjoy a casual/business visit to both at least once a year. But, they really don't offer all that much more, they just have more of it. It's not like you go to either to kick back and relax or to show your kids a fun time.
04-20-2010, 09:39 PM
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Llewelyn
Actually, Joakim had a great game last night. So he does back up his words.
And I have to disagree, he is refreshing. You'd probably think so as well, if you lived in any other city besides Cleveland.
Nothing wrong with booing him either, but lots of people seemed genuinely shocked and offended.
I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
Yea, but I doubt you saw all that Cleveland provides
04-20-2010, 10:03 PM
Location: Cleveland
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Actually, Joakim had a great game last night. So he does back up his words.
And I have to disagree, he is refreshing. You'd probably think so as well, if you lived in any other city besides Cleveland.
Nothing wrong with booing him either, but lots of people seemed genuinely shocked and offended. I've been to Cleveland before and saw all I needed to in 2 days.
Yeah, the fat guy they kept showing hysterically taunting and wagging his finger at Noah made me cringe.
People don't get it. The rest of the country sees an image like that and they laugh. They also conclude (correctly) that Clevelanders care more about showing the world how offended they are than doing anything to actually change the perception.
Of course the negative images of Cleveland are exaggerated. So are the negative images of Detroit, Miami, Fresno, Phoenix, wherever. That's not the point. Cleveland is acting like the loser guy at the bar who responds to a playful taunt from a girl with an overly analytical, defensive explanation of why he, in fact, doesn't suck. And when you do that, girls know you suck.
04-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Location: Cleveland
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Hey, we never visit Cleveland either!
Hey, I put on deodorant daily and brush with toothpaste 2-3 times a day, buddy.
I was just in Milwaukee a few months ago, not exactly a perfect place.
04-21-2010, 07:32 AM
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Oh please. You don't get it. It's freaking NBA Basketball. It's a friendly rivalry. It just gives us a reason to hate the bulls. A reason to boo. Makes it more fun and exciting.
And the next day we go on about our lives not caring what some dippy NBS star had to say.
We don't really hate the city of Pittsburgh it is just fun to hate them every Sunday.
04-21-2010, 08:45 AM
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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