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Old 11-04-2010, 07:14 AM
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When I moved up here from Charlotte i initially was looking at Middlesex county and I was shocked how high taxes were. Everything we looked at was between 11k and 14 k in taxes. Quite a jump from 2300.00 i was paying in Charlotte for a house 1400 sq feet smaller than the one I had down there.

Lets keep our fingers crossed no more Stock market crashes like 3 years ago. Can't afford another big hit like everyone else.

Keep the faith and lets hope a mild winter.

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Old 11-04-2010, 07:29 AM
Location: New Jersey
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OK.... talk about insanity ?....... and I mean "ME"...... the taxes on our house, 1/2 acre, 5,000 sq ft..... $ 26K.... $26K !!!! And that is low for our neighborhood. Unfortunatley New Jersey is completely broken..... CANNOT be fixed..... Governor Christy means well and is trying to do the right thing but it is like trying to dig a hole at the edge of the beach, keeps filling right back up no matter how fast you dig.... the "honorable" politicians have been systematically putting us under water for 40 years and there isn't much that can be done about it now. That is why the exodus of people from NJ.... the ones who can at least. So far we have looked at the Landings on Skidaway Island in Georgia, all of the plantations just off Hilton Head Island in South Carolina, Dataw Island near Beaufort SC, Pawley's Island / Murells's Inlet just below Myrtle Beach and going to the Southport North Carolina area ( St James in particular ) next month. At each and every community we visited, the largest percentage of transplants were from NJ, and then NY. Must be something to it down there and we're going someplace down there within a year. I just have to make sure they have good Phychiatric care in the area because I am absolutely crazy to have stayed this long.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:28 AM
Location: Long Island NY
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We just bought land in St James. We're going to leave NY in a year or two (Grandkids). I've been reading theis forum for about two years and do not get upset at the negative comments. I've visited 3 times now and intended to see Wilmington and other nearby areas. The futhurest we've gotten is southport. We just love the area and the community and it's activities. Our taxes are now 14g and will be 1,400. St James is a little out of the way (in miles) but on Long Island it can take 45mins to travel 10 miles so I only consider time not miles. From the St James Entrance to the Beach Club was 7 minutes. We saw a sunrise there that included pelicans and dolphins. I'm looking forward to more of the same.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:44 AM
Location: New Jersey
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CanalsLB, I believe you are correct, "they" make negative comments about every area, "they" make them about where we live and where you live and everywhere we are even thinking about..... we listen NOT to "their" hearsay, innuendo, perhaps some jealousy, resentment, etc..... whether "they" be locals or not.... we check out a place for ourselves, as WE are the ones that might be living there soon. We have personally met 4 couples from our town that live or have purchased land in and around St James and they all have nothing but good things to say about St James AND the surrounding areas, islands, etc..... AND, you echo their sentiments about the "need" to drive to Wilmington or Myrtle Beach more than "occasionally" for any necessities, restaurants, etc.....
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:36 AM
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Stonecreek (need your first name), What do you know avout this so-called NJ "Exit Tax" for people like us who hopefully sell our homes but we are "Taxed" a certain few percentage points post closing. Do you have the skinny on this?
I wouldn't get too hung up on the negative comments, personally i think its pure jealousy. When I was down there in May we went to Tommys for a few cold ones after Golf and I probably met 8-12 couples who were all from New Jersey and Ct. and I have to tell you they were the nicest people, friendly, non-snobbish, people I ever met. None of them appeared to be "Wannabees" as the saying goes just people like us who have worked hard, saved a few pennies here and there, and want to meet other people. Whats the big deal, right?? Jeez, these people are a pip.
I feel good that my taxes in Tinton Falls are only 10k compared to Westfield. "Oy vey" as they say in the city.
You guys feel coimfortable you will sell your homes? Boy, my sister in Rumson is having a tough time trying to sell hers. As the saying goes, there a buyer out there for everyone. We hope, right?
Thought I would share with you what my buddy sends me ever week on some of the activities down at St James. Get me outta here, please!!!!!!!!!!!
Here Goes:
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

This Week in Club News...

2011 Food & Beverage Minimum - Resident Member
If you are a resident member and are interested in
opting for the $600 pre-pay option for your 2011
Food and Beverage Minimum, please contact Susan
Ladner at SLadner@TroonGolf.com or (910) 253-9500
x6 to make payment arrangements.

As you'll remember, paying in full is a very
"user-friendly" option. Here's how it works: You
(the resident member,) pay the $600 balance in
full in January. This allows you to spend your
F&B minimum as you see fit throughout the year.
If your balance is $0.00 by May 1st (or whenever,)
then voila! You're finished and no more F&B
minimum requirement remains for 2011. Although,
we hope you remain a Club restaurant diner all
year long!

Nov. 15th - Tommy's Winter Hours
Beginning November 15th, Tommy Thompson's Grille
and Market will switch to a winter schedule. The
adjusted times will be: Grille: 8am -
3pm...and...Market: 8am - 5pm Not to worry,
regular hours will resume again on March 15th,

Daily Dinner Specials at The Players Club Grille
Are you interested in receiving a daily email
about the delicious specials at The Players Club
Grille? If so, click here and sign up!

Lunch Coupons Will Soon Expire!
The Clubs will no longer be issuing "Buy 5 Get 1
Free" lunch coupons BUT the servers will continue
signing the coupons for purchased lunches through
December 31st. Coupons will expire December 31st.
Signature Membership Upgrade

27 Days Remain! Signature Upgrade Offering
We are excited to offer our Premier and Home Club
Members a limited time, Signature Membership
upgrade. This fantastic opportunity will allow
you to enjoy the many benefits of Signature
Membership – TODAY! Signature Members enjoy the
benefits of attractive Preferred Pricing. Here
are a few highlights:

10% discount off food and beverage purchases
compared to a 5% discount for other Members.
NOTE: discounts for all members exclude
alcoholic beverages and catered and Club
hosted events;
25% off pro shop soft goods merchandise
purchases compared to 20% for other Members;
10% off pro shop hard goods merchandise
20% off guest greens fees for adult children
(i.e. children who are not Immediate Family
members, grandchildren, great-grandchildren,
parents and grandparents of the Signature
Golf Member (if family golf dues are paid);
Annual coupon book for the first five years
of Membership, which includes additional
benefits and discount coupons for the
purchase of food and beverage items, golf
and tennis fees and services at the Club;
$2 off golf cart rental fees for Signature
Golf Members.
Interested in more details? Review the Membership
Plan on our website.

Upgrading Is Smart Money
Upgrading your Premier or Home Club Membership
requires a one-time, non-refundable $5,000 fee
which is payable over a four-year period! That’s
just $1,250 a year. Added BONUS: Its interest
Don’t Let Opportunity Pass You By
This valuable, one-time upgrade offer expires
December 1, 2010. If you’re interested in finding
out more or would like to sign-up today, please
contact The Clubs Membership Director, Becky Jones
at BJones@TroonGolf.com or (910)253-9500 x2.
Upcoming Events

Catch Some Great Live Entertainment...
Tonight! 11/3 ~ Benny Hill ~ 6 - 8pm ~ PC
11/7 ~ Chris Bellamy ~ 5 - 8pm ~ Tommy's
11/9 ~ David Bohn ~ 6 - 9pm ~ Tommy's

NFL Sunday Ticket at Members Club Bar & Grille!
Hit the Members Club for your favorite big game
every Sunday (did we mention we had the NFL
Ticket?!) and enjoy a good 'ol PBR (Pabst Blue
Ribbon) bottle for $1.75! Only at The Members

9 & Dine
Sunday, November 7th ~ 3pm ~ The Players Club
Sign up early for November's 9 & Dine! The fun
starts with a shotgun start at 3pm followed by a
delicious dinner. Cost is $20/person (plus tax
and gratuity) and a $5 Pro Shop credit will be
awarded to the winners! Join your friends and
sign up today, via Golf Net.

Cigar Dinner
Tuesday, November 9th ~ 6pm ~ The Founders Club
Sample delicious cigars from Havana Rays while
sipping the finest Bourbon, Irish and Canadian
Whiskey, and Scotch. Dinner will be fantastic,
too! Check out the menu here. $45/person,
inclusive. Don't miss this lively and unique
event. Contact Robert Astraikis for reservations.
RAstraikis@TroonGolf.com or (910) 253-9500 x211.

Karaoke Night!
Friday, November 12th ~ 7 - 11pm ~ The Founders
The perfect opportunity to put all that singing in
the shower to good use! Drinks will be available
for purchase but food will not be served.
Reservations are required so contact Tiffany
Pagliari today! TPagliari@TroonGolf.com or (910)
253-9500 x212.

2010 St. James / Graham E-Z-Go Pro-Amateur
Monday, November 15th ~ The Players Club ~ 9am
Join the fun! The format for this tournament will
be 1 Carolinas PGA Professional teaming with 3
amateurs playing 1 Best Ball Net plus 1 Best Ball
Gross. Players will hit from the black tees and
all amateurs will receive 75% off their handicap
index. $100 entry fee includes golf, lunch and
tee gifts. Sign-up your 3-man team by October
29th! Call The Founders Club at (910) 253-3008

NEW! St. James University
Tuesday, November 16th ~ Members Club ~ 6:30 pm
coffee and desserts, 7pm lecture
Our next UNCW-St. James partnership brings a
lively history lecture titled "Middle Eastern
History After 9/11: Changes & Challenges." Dr.
Lisa Pollard will discuss the field of middle
eastern history prior to and after that fateful
September day. This will be a fascinating college
lesson for the history buff or someone interested
in learning more about the complexities of the
middle east. $15/person (plus tax and gratuity)
includes dessert and lecture. Reservations are
required so contact Tiffany Pagliari today!
TPagliari@TroonGolf.com or (910) 253-9500 x212.

Bingo Night!
Thursday, November 18th ~ 6pm ~ The Members Club
Enjoy a tasty dinner buffet at 6pm, followed by
play at 7pm. Bingo cards are $2/each (cash only)
and all the money collected will be dished out as
prizes! $15/person (plus tax and gratuity.)
Reservations are required so contact Tiffany
Pagliari today! TPagliari@TroonGolf.com or (910)
253-9500 x212.

Make Reservations Today! Thanksgiving Buffet
Thursday, November 25th ~ 11am - 2pm ~ The Members
Club Ballroom
Celebrate the holiday and enjoy a delicious
Thanksgiving feast without stepping foot in the
kitchen! View the amazing menu here. $25/adult
(plus tax and gratuity), $13/age 5-12 (plus tax
and gratuity) and FREE for children under 5.
Space fills up quickly and reservations are
required so please contact Brandee Donnelly at
BDonnelly@TroonGolf.com or (910) 253-9500 x210

NEW! Member Mixer
Friday, November 26th ~ 6 - 10pm ~ Members Club
Meet your friends and dance off those Thanksgiving
calories! DJ Rock will be spinning your favorite
tunes, too! $15/person (plus tax and gratuity)
includes a fantastic dinner buffet. Reservations
are required so contact Tiffany Pagliari today!
TPagliari@TroonGolf.com or (910) 253-9500 x212.
Golf & Tennis News

Special Announcement! Saturday Tee Times at The
Members Club
This Saturday, November 6th, The Clubs will be
hosting a tournament for the South Brunswick High
School Dance Team at The Members Club. Select tee
times will also be available, so if you are
interested in playing at The Members Club this
Saturday, please contact the Pro Shop for
availability (910) 253-9500 x1. Thank you!

A Great Deal! November Lesson Special
For the month of November, Dan Pasquariello will
be offering Golf Clinics at a SPECIAL rate (50%
off regular price.) Gather your friends and create
your own clinic or be paired with other golfers.
The cost is $25/person with a minimum of two
students (maximum of six). The clinic length is
60 minutes. Call Dan today at 253-5100 for

NEW! Golf Shop Hours
Please note the Golf Shops' updated hours of
operation are daily from 7am - 4:30pm.

NEW! Tennis 101 Clinic
Looking to get back in to the game of tennis?
Then, carpe diem! Looking to try tennis on for
size? Then, carpe diem, too! Take advantage of
these fantastic clinics:
Mondays, 5-6pm Focusing on forehands/backhands
and play situations
Fridays, 10-11am Focusing on
volleys/overheads/serves and play situations
Each clinic is $10/person. Pleas sign up before
hand to reserve your spot! Contact Liz Beirne at
the Tennis Shop (910) 253-3008 x6 or

FootJoy NFL Shoe Sale
Calling all NFL fans! The Founders Club is
offering 20% off all FootJoy NFL logo'd
shoes...just in time for the season! Drop by and
check out the catalog today!
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:54 PM
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CanalsLB, Taking a guess here that you live in the canals in Long Beach, NY. Bought my first home there back in the early 80's on Roosevelt Blvd. Bought for $70,000 and thought I was going for my lungs with a $50,000 30 year fixed at 12%. Sold it two years later for $140,000. Now looking at St James and Ocean Ridge for what will be the best years of my life.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:18 PM
Location: New Jersey
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OK Mr. Hawk.....

1st, thanks for the newsletter stuff, cannot wait for a cigar night with a bit of single malt Scotch.

RE the "Exit tax", not being an attorney OR tax accountant, I stand to be corrected, but I do not see how anyone would know where you are moving once you sell your house, how would anyone, including any of the officials in the corrupt gov't of NJ, know if you are intending to or actually even do move out of the state, rent an apartment in Hoboken or set up a pup tent in a neighbors backyard ? How would they know ?.... perhaps a mandatory GPS chip surgically implanted in one's arm ? AND if so, would that be covered by the new and wildly popular Obamacare.

As far as selling our house, it's "pretty" nice and has been on the market for over six months at what ALL the realtors believe is a very reasonable / low price..... without even as much as a terrible, go to hell, lowball nibble, so who knows what will happen with it..... along with all of the other nice homes in town that are for sale.

We are going down to St James for a long weekend starting 12/9 and are very anxious to meet some of the nice people at St James, I'm positive they are just as nice as the people we have met at all of the other Plantation communities from Savannah up to Myrtle Beach.


Matt.... as in "Matteo di pomodoro" which is a delicious tomato concoction we put on garlic crostini and serve to guests on our back patio in the late summer when Jersey tomatos are at their peak.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:18 PM
Location: Long Island NY
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caco54-You're right on the money. My front yard is the canal. We're located between Roosevelt and Pacific. Bought in 1993 after the big Nor'easter. No damage to my house or other houses at my end of the block. I felt a little like Garp. Taxes were $4,500 then-very manageable. Add in the rediculous electric and natural gas prices and it adds up. The property values have held up very well. We should be able to sell and buy a new house for cash, with something left over. The bride really loves the neighborhood (and grandkids) that's why we'll take our time. She retired during the summer and golfed 3 or 4 times a week. I know that she'll love the longer season once we make the move.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:15 PM
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Stone Creek, you have truely made the "grand tour" in your search. Will St James be the last in the search and did you bypass Ocean Ridge and Winding River in your march north?
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:21 PM
Location: New Jersey
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My dear caco52+2.... our "travels" to all those other areas were on several different trips. When we were down to Pawley's Island in July we flew into Myrtle Beach and spent the entire time down there between Murrells Inlet and Pawley's and never ventured North past the Myrtle Beach airport. When we go down next month we are flying into Wilmington and heading down to the Southport area and staying at St James. We will make that our HQ and venture out on reconnaissance missions to the islands and several other communities, maybe Winding Ridge ( don't exactly know yet ).... and in particular Ocean Ridge.... and to explore the general area between Southport and the Sunset beach area to see what it all has to offer.

I must admit though that without having actually been down there yet, we are quite smitten with everything that St James and Southport has to offer, especially the marina and Tommy Thompsons, although we are trying to keep an open mind about everything.... trying anyway.

I'm afraid that we are going to have to have dinner and drinks each night with those stuck-up snobs ( according to some ) at St James and perhaps at a couple of local waterfront restaurants along the way..... I hope we are able to communicate with them..... being from NJ and all..... I'll admit that it's tough duty but we are committed and will grin and try to bear up under the strain.

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