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Old 04-28-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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Totally agree about 211/Long Beach Road intersection. From the graphic that was in the State Port Pilot, I do not see how someone traveling in the direction from Southport towards the west could make a turn on to the new 133 north or someone on 133 north could go towards St James on 211.
Most people traveling west from Southport would have turned on River Road or Dosher Cutoff in order to travel north towards BSL. Anyone traveling north on 133 (coming from OKI) would turn onto Old Long Beach Road, and can then turn east or west on 211.

Also, anyone traveling east from SJP, wanting to go north on 133, would have to go past the new overpass, turn right on Old Long Beach Road, then right on 133 (New Long Beach Road) or they'd have to go all the way down to Dosher Cutoff and get over to River Road.

Its only a partial interchange, not a full one, thus the limitations.

I think the whole overpass concept is a hastily designed, knee jerk political reaction. Traffic on 211 will still be problematic, as there will be 2 stop lights in close proximity. I would not be surprised if its not built, or at least not in its current configuration.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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Agree with ditchoc that the new project lessens future congestion at the 133/211 intersection by making Lowes, CVS, the Lowes gas station and the other businesses build somewhere else.

Also, 211/Midway is facing more congestion with continued building at SJP, mostly on the western side. Their new road entension and exit to Middleton, plus the new Dosher Clinic, will add more traffic from the south.

From the west, there will be more traffic as Winding River, Riversea, Palmetto Creek, and communities toward Sunset Harbor continue their growth.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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I "think" that the intersection improvements at 211 and Midway/Middleton may be part of the state's plan for upgrading the Midway Rd/Galloway Road corridor to a more robust hurricane evacuation route. Sort of like how when the state built the new bridge over the ICW, they built it with 4 lanes, while the old bridge has only two lanes. And how 133 have only 2 lanes plus a turning lane, while Middleton has 4 lanes plus turning lanes. It's good to see the state build towards the future when eventually there will be lots of development in the area.


Totally agree about 211/Long Beach Road intersection. From the graphic that was in the State Port Pilot, I do not see how someone traveling in the direction from Southport towards the west could make a turn on to the new 133 north or someone on 133 north could go towards St James on 211.
The newspaper article clipped part of the drawing. To go north toward Wilmington, from Southport, you would turn right at (man) Lowes. That street will be extended to connect to the New Beach Road (133).

If you are going north on 133 from the island toward SJP you would turn left at the new light in front of Food Lion (the last part they are still working on) then left at 211. This is the same route you would take if you were coming from SJP headed to Wilmington except in reverse. Off 211 you would turn left onto Old Beach Road, go the the new light and turn right toward Wilmington on New Beach Road. Basically, Old Beach Road, through the business section, becomes part of the access loop onto and off of New Beach Road or 133.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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The newspaper article clipped part of the drawing. To go north toward Wilmington, from Southport, you would turn right at (man) Lowes. That street will be extended to connect to the New Beach Road (133).

If you are going north on 133 from the island toward SJP you would turn left at the new light in front of Food Lion (the last part they are still working on) then left at 211. This is the same route you would take if you were coming from SJP headed to Wilmington except in reverse. Off 211 you would turn left onto Old Beach Road, go the the new light and turn right toward Wilmington on New Beach Road. Basically, Old Beach Road, through the business section, becomes part of the access loop onto and off of New Beach Road or 133.
The access road beside Lowe's home improvement is temporary. Once the overpass/interchange is built it will go away.

And I think you mean turn "right" across from Food Lion when coming from OKI.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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Great information Ditchoc. Thanks.


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The newspaper article clipped part of the drawing. To go north toward Wilmington, from Southport, you would turn right at (man) Lowes. That street will be extended to connect to the New Beach Road (133).

If you are going north on 133 from the island toward SJP you would turn left at the new light in front of Food Lion (the last part they are still working on) then left at 211. This is the same route you would take if you were coming from SJP headed to Wilmington except in reverse. Off 211 you would turn left onto Old Beach Road, go the the new light and turn right toward Wilmington on New Beach Road. Basically, Old Beach Road, through the business section, becomes part of the access loop onto and off of New Beach Road or 133.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Thanks for everyones input. We had a great 2nd visit and met alot of very nice people just out walking or at restaurants.
No one was disappointed in their decision to move to stj. We got a great feel for the entire area and could see ourselves living there. Biggest issue is leaving home town of 35 years and pulling the trigger!!
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Great information Ditchoc. Thanks.
Its actually incorrect information.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Its actually incorrect information.
I was referring to the image of the intersection. His information was quite helpful.

Last edited by PilotPaul; 04-28-2016 at 09:20 AM.. Reason: Left out a sentance
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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I was referring to the image of the intersection. His information was quite helpful.
???? The post of his that you responded to doesn't contain an image, but does contain factual errors. I get that you people only want to talk to each other, but when you do, at least get the facts straight.

Here's a better map of the overpass/interchange.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well... this just terrible ! Just terrible according to "SOME"! Apparently, as WE have found after almost 5 years here in ST James, just about everyone we meet here and in Southport are friendly and quite happy and everyone that visits meets the same friendly and happy transplants. And now... and now we find that you don't make a left turn, instead you make a right turn... TERRIBLE... AND they are adding more stores for me to shop at AND they are improving the roadways and intersections as the population grows... apparently this forward thinking is also terrible and horrific news.... according to "SOME". Personally I like the idea of having more and closer places to shop for sustanance, Lowes, Food Lion, Publix, new restaurants, etc...
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