Thoughts or information on St James Plantation (Oak Island, Southport: camping, cost)

[Stonecreek67]

OK.... just got back from Oak Island where we had a very nice assortment of seafood at a full house at Turtle Island amongst a bunch of the nicest people, many from St James. I must report that we got back safely with no incidents or encounters with knife / gun totin' types...... and no traffic.... methinks "someone" just might be in need of a reality check.... just maybe.

[Time2Travel]

Originally Posted by Stonecreek67

Timetotravel..... I dunno.... I made the trip over to Oak Island at least 15 times in August and September.... and all in the daylight hours too.... didn't get caught in any traffic on the way to either bridge... and of course there is just about ZERO traffic on the road to the new bridge. As far as 20 minutes to go the 8 miles, yep I guess that's about right, that's pretty good moving if you ask me. Also, as far as waiting in line for a couple of extra minutes "sometimes" for the light to change on the intersection of 211 and Long Beach Road, if you call that traffic..... sorry, but that's not traffic in my book. I just do not see the traffic / back-ups that you are suggesting anywhere we go down here.

Ahem.... in addition, as far as suggesting that all of the people on Oak Island are red necks AND needing a gun to get around over there... in addition to simply not being true..... I guess that just proves what a classy guy you are, but that's just my opinion based on your ridiculously prejudiced statement...... no offense meant of course !

We're leaving now to go on that long and tedious 15 to 20 minute trek over to Oak Island for dinner at I think Turtle Island with another lovely couple from around the corner here at St James..... I hope we make it home alive.

I didn't say that you needed a gun to get around Oak Island. I said you'd need one to safely walk from the St James beach club to the waterway after dark. And I didn't say that everybody on Oak Island was a redneck. I said that Oak Island was a redneck beach because it is.

I simply responded to the post claiming that traffic on 211 never gets backed up (because it definately does, I work there so I know) and the absurd idea that Oak Island is even in the same ballpark as Sunset Beach (because its not even close). My opinion doesn't make me classy or unclassy. It's an observation based on what I see with my own two eyes. Oh and my statement isn't prejudice. It's observation. Saying that rednecks live on Oak Island is (observation) and way different than saying I hate rednecks (which would be prejudice).

Now is Oak Island redneck? Uh yea it is.........


120 Northeast 16th Street, Oak Island NC | MLS# 659001 - Trulia

238 Northeast 69th Street, Oak Island NC | MLS# 655116 - Trulia

131 Northeast 75th Street, Oak Island NC | MLS# 649556 - Trulia


Oh here ya go, same street as the beach club.............


* 249 Northeast 67th Street, Oak Island NC | MLS# 657127 - Trulia

419 Sherrill Avenue, Oak Island NC | MLS# 468275 - Trulia

221 Northeast 68th Street, Oak Island NC | MLS# 651772 - Trulia


I could list another 25 but you get the point. Check this out though. A nice news article about an Oak Island resident. Enjoy......


"Teen Mom 2" focuses on Oak Island family | WWAY NewsChannel 3 | Wilmington NC News

FIRST ON 3: Oak Island's "Teen Mom 2" star Jenelle Evans arrested for marijuana possession | WWAY NewsChannel 3 | Wilmington NC News


Now you can hate on my opinion all you want but I call that redneck.

[Time2Travel]

Originally Posted by Stonecreek67

OK.... just got back from Oak Island where we had a very nice assortment of seafood at a full house at Turtle Island amongst a bunch of the nicest people, many from St James. I must report that we got back safely with no incidents or encounters with knife / gun totin' types...... and no traffic.... methinks "someone" just might be in need of a reality check.... just maybe.

You mean kinda like driving on Oak Island and not being able to see the trailer park because a singlewide mobile home is blocking your view?

[Stonecreek67]

I believe someone may have missed his nap this afternoon.

[Jkgourmet]

Originally Posted by Time2Travel

You mean kinda like driving on Oak Island and not being able to see the trailer park because a singlewide mobile home is blocking your view?

I'm not from the area (we are planning to visit soon to consider it for retirement), and I do not ever want to live in a mobile home, but I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that only rednecks live in trailer parks?

My confusion is based on the abundent trailer parks we have here in Arizona. Yes, some are pretty dumpy and typically filled with folks, young and old, who are poor. There are also some trailer parks that are quite nice, primarily set up as 55+ communities.

The properties you cited on Trulia all seem to be less than 3 blocks from the beach. In most areas of the country, that would be prime real estate.

[Stonecreek67]

So, senor Time2Travel..... you're right, that Trulia thing is really keen ! But you must be careful what you wish for, at the bottom of each of those listings, you're site "Trulia" gives Oak Island it's top rating of "Excellent" for safety and community involvement, you obviously overlooked that section.... but why let facts get in the way.

I am also completely flabbergasted to find that you were able to find a newspaper article that reports that even on remote Oak Island there was a young girl that got pregnant out of wedlock, a shocking and I'm sure an isolated development in 2011..... AND.... AND in addition to that, to my utter astonishment, someone got arrested for Marijuanna possession on the very same Oak Island, yes, in 2011 someone got arrested for Marijuanna possession in America..... these two examples you give are amazing and I am sure have never happened anywhere else in North Carolina...... dare I say even in the city that you live.

But, back to your beloved Trulia just for a moment.... it's funny, you obviously "neglected" to go far enough in the listings to show the huge amount of larger, more upscale and expensive homes scattered throughout the same area....

28465 Real Estate & 28465 Homes For Sale — Trulia.com

I'm positive it was just an oversight on your part and not simply your ignorance and myopic, neanderthal-like opinion of someone that might dare to live on or even visit Oak Island.

[trw11]

I am curious as to those who have purchased homes or lots in SJP why did you decide to go re-sale or why you decided to buy a lot and build. Are there batter values going one way or the other? Or just a matter of timing or personal preference? Thanks.

[PonyPride]

My original intent was to buy a resale. After much research my personal preference was to have a house built on a slab. Since there were not many houses on the golf course for sale that met this criteria, I looked into buying a lot. I purchased a golf course lot in the Reserve and will build a home on a slab. The cost of the lot (since prices have really dropped) and the new construction will work out to be the same as a 10 yr old resale.

[marc515]

Are there any advantages of a slab over a crawl space or a crawl space over a slab?

[Stonecreek67]

That's a good question Marc.....there are several ways to look at it..... a house on a slab is of course less costly, that's where any "advantage" stops for me. IMHO and almost everyone I speak to "down here" ( a new building environment for me ) say the crawlspace is the way to go and I concur. A slab of concrete is just that, a slab of concrete to walk and stand on for the next 25 years, no matter what flooring is on it, wood, carpet and especially tile, it is hard on the back and legs but that may not bother some people, it bothers me, especially as I get older. Up North that slab of concrete is "colder" in the winter and not "quite" as comfortable in the winter.... now the ground doesn't freeze down here like up north but it still gets mighty cold and I don't relish the thought of testing the theory. Once that slab is poured which includes all the plumbing and wiring.... that's it, no going back after the house is built to repair or add anything new such as new technology wiring, etc...... I don't like that.

The crawlspace affords the ability to install real hardwood flooring, go back under the house for any repairs and adding of new wiring, plumbing, etc., and is easier on the back as you are walking on wood joists which "give" a bit under your feet, if there are any grandkids around it is much "nicer" for them to fall down on a wood floor than on concrete. The question is whether to condition or not condition the crawlspace. To prevent a mold situation in the crawlspace as it is very humid many months of the year down here, it can be left alone with vents every few feet which has been working fine for many, many years or it can be "encapsulated" / "closed in completely" ( sort of like a shallow basement down there ) with a zone off the HVAC system and the air down there is conditioned / dehumified completely eliminating the chance of any mold and also keeping that space ( and therefore the floor above it ) at a more even temperature level, also allowing any hardwood flooring to breathe and not "cup"..... encapsulation seems to be the preferred method from almost everyone I speak to including the architect and quite a few builders. People, builders, etc are still building with all three methods, slab, un-conditioned crawlspace with vents and conditioned / encapsulated crawlspaces...... but most I speak to are and have of late been going with the encapsulated method. I have decided that the way I'm going is to encapsulate the crawlspace, much better IMHO.