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Old 03-11-2012, 11:36 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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My wife and I bought our lot and are not members of SJP and do not plan on acquiring membership for another 9 year or so (when we are down there full-time). Right now all we have to pay is POA dues ($775 annual and taxes). SJP rules allow us to eat in Tommy's or the clubs, but obviously we have to pay cash as we do not have an allowance to utilize.

That is a great thing about SJP, its flexibility. What makes SJP different from other communities is that they do not own and run the golf courses and clubs. They are owned by a separate company.

Hope this helps.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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Default SJP Membership

We bought the lot from a resale and they implied that you could not later get a membership and that this had to be kept up. Do you know if I can sell it back to Troon?
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Default Resale or Transfer of Membership not permitted

Per "The CLUBS at SJP" Membership Plan," dated Jan. 1, 2012:

Regarding the current SIGNATURE membership program -
"A member may not sell, assign or otherwise transfer a membership or any privileges of membership."

If you have a membership and sell the property that qualified you to be a member, you will be "deemed to have resigned" your membership and the new property owner will need to go thru the normal application process with specified fees.

A membership application must be APPROVED by "The CLUBS before someone can become a member. IF it was possible to transfer a Membership with the property, "The CLUBS" would lose the ability to approve or disapprove the membership.

There are different rules with the older Membership programs that are being phased out thru attrition.

But don't go by my interpretation. Contact Becky Jones, the Clubs Membership Director at bjones@troongolf.com. Ask your questions or, if you are a non member property owner, ask her to send you the Membership packet.

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Old 03-11-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Citi-Cath,

You can get a membership at any time but the caveat is that the membership programs change from time to time. So a program that is available today may not be available next year. I know that the programs differ based on the up front fee (bond) and whether it is refundable when you sell. I believe that one of the memberships they offer is 80% refundable when you sell and others are not. Obviously, a membership fee that is partially refundable is more expensive than on that is gone when you pay it.

Pony
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Default To STONECREEK67

Did my email address make it to you?
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Got it....
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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That is a great thing about SJP, its flexibility. What makes SJP different from other communities is that they do not own and run the golf courses and clubs. They are owned by a separate company.

Hope this helps.
Pony, Troon manages the golf courses and clubs, who owns them?

In the, unlikely, event that land costs supercede the cost of running/mantaining the golf courses, is there anything in place that will protect the courses at St. James from future home site development?

Couple of years ago, the greater Myrtle Beach area experienced many golf course closings.

Is this a concern?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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Default Clubs ownership & the chance of "folding" - NO

Referring back to my membership packet as well as my lot purchase papers, it appears that the Clubs are owned by "The Clubs at St. James Plantation, LLC,"ie "The Club Owner," one of the legal entities under the SJP Developer's "umbrella."

It is the "Club Owner" who controls most, if not all, aspects of "CLUB MEMBERSHIP," not "Troon."

"Troon" is "hired help," who have a contract to MANAGE the physical operation of the Clubs.

Regarding the concern that the "Clubs" might close as several courses in the Myrtle Beach area have. Not going to happen. The Clubs are self sufficient and debt free, as are all of the $100,000,000 worth of amenities in SJP. Nor are any of the Clubs going to be closed so a course can be subdivided and sold for residential use. First, that would be biting the hand that feeds them. The Clubs are a MAJOR selling point for SJP. Second, SJP has a HUGE surplus of lots remaining to be sold. It does not make financial sense to destroy a proven asset (a golf course) to create lots that lack a market.

So, put your concerns away and enjoy the day. We are.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:37 PM
 
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Very well stated Mr. Pair.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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OK, so tonight's the night..... Tommy Thompsons opens the Tiki Bar at the marina full time tonight with live entertainment every Tuesday and Sunday evenings, tonight is "A Party of Two" very popular local husband and wife team... always gets the deck a rockin'. It's just beautiful out right now, sunny and about 75 degrees and promises to be just a little cooler this evening at the marina, maybe even a sweater or sweatshirt after 7pm with a little breeze off the water.... expecting a big full house crowd with just a "tad" of frivolity as the order of the evening.... a few drinks thrown in and the lovely, fragrant perfume of fine cigar smoke wafting through the palm trees that line the area..... the commandant is dragging me down there early for a bite before the festivities begin..... we will not be alone in this endeavor ..... headin' out the door in a few minutes.......

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