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Old 04-21-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Jersey City, NJ
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I took this picture when visiting my family in Wilmington. What type of trees are these? Are they trimmed to look like this or do they naturally lose branches as they grow? They look like a cross between palm trees and pines. My Dad said they are called Southern Pines. Anyone know? In any case, I love them and think they are beautiful.



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Old 04-21-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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Nice photo. I think those are mostly loblolly pines (Pinus taeda), but it's hard to tell the variety from your photo. Looks like there might be a longleaf (Pinus palustris) right in the sun. Might be in an area where the timber had been thinned and if so there would have been other trees up close to them before the thinning and that shaded understory would have encouraged the pines to grow up tall to the sun and the loss of lower limbs. Lots of varieties of pines grow that way, though. There's not a species of pine called Southern Pine, but timber from a variety of pines is called Southern Pine lumber.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_taeda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_palustris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pinus_species
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:59 PM
 
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That answered my question poppydog. Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Southern pine.

The mid Atlantic is the 'great pine forest'.

During the days of wooden ship building, hulls were sealed with pine tar. Great piles of pine trees were slowly fired and as the pine sap ran out, it was collected. Thus, the 'Tar Heel' state.

Now days they are still abundant. Tough they look like big dandelions, they are top heavy and tend to snap in high winds and particularly ice storms. In the spring the help produce a yellowish pine pollen that gets into and covers every thing for a month or more.

I do not particularly care for them and if I were buying property, I would be looking for hardwoods, not pine trees.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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Southern pine.

The mid Atlantic is the 'great pine forest'.

During the days of wooden ship building, hulls were sealed with pine tar. Great piles of pine trees were slowly fired and as the pine sap ran out, it was collected. Thus, the 'Tar Heel' state.

Now days they are still abundant. Tough they look like big dandelions, they are top heavy and tend to snap in high winds and particularly ice storms. In the spring the help produce a yellowish pine pollen that gets into and covers every thing for a month or more.

I do not particularly care for them and if I were buying property, I would be looking for hardwoods, not pine trees.
There's no such tree as a "southern pine". The tree to which you are referring is the Longleaf Pine. It used to cover an area of millions of acres from Texas to Virginia, but now only 3% of it exists. Brunswick County has some large stands of Longleaf Pine forest.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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There's no such tree as a "southern pine". The tree to which you are referring is the Longleaf Pine. It used to cover an area of millions of acres from Texas to Virginia, but now only 3% of it exists. Brunswick County has some large stands of Longleaf Pine forest.
As you wish. But VA to TX pretty much covers the south. :-)
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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As you wish. But VA to TX pretty much covers the south. :-)
Has nothing to do with my "wishes". Plants have names. If you want to call them something different, then feel free. just expect to be corrected, or to be misunderstood.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Yep, no such critter as "Southern Pine". The state toast of North Carolina starts out, "Here's to the land of the Long Leaf Pine..." and I do see one of those in the sun in that photo, but the others are too far away for me to ID properly. The most common pine tree in NC is the Loblolly Pine, so could be some of those, too. Unless the land is managed forest and the trees are being farmed, and often even then, it would typically have mixed species.

NC State has a nice tree ID online here: https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plant...l#.WQIEA1PytE4

I also really like Will Cook's site on plants of NC here: Trees, Shrubs, and Woody Vines of North Carolina I used it a lot when I ran the Envirothon club at my kid's school.

Garden and Gun has a really nice article on the restoration of the Longleaf Pine ecosystem by individual land owners in the South. Lots of pictures: http://gardenandgun.com/feature/the-longleaf-pine/

Longleafs are really easy to ID in person. The needles are about 12-18 inches long and the pinecones are about the size of a football. Had one in my backyard growing up.

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Old 04-27-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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I understand about being specific but only those that make a living in a specific field use the scientific name for items on a regular basis. When was the last time you went to get your follicles cut and so on? Or maybe, that Pinus taeda needs to come down.

Everyday language is full of inaccuracy.

Check out this web site:

Home - Southern Pine

As far as I am concerned, its just a frickin pine tree.

Peace
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Old 04-27-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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I understand about being specific but only those that make a living in a specific field use the scientific name for items on a regular basis. When was the last time you went to get your follicles cut and so on? Or maybe, that Pinus taeda needs to come down.

Everyday language is full of inaccuracy.

Check out this web site:

Home - Southern Pine

As far as I am concerned, its just a frickin pine tree.

Peace
LOL, Longleaf Pine isn't the scientific name! I hope you didn't hire a landscaper for your yard, lol. I'd hate to see what he would install.
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