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Old 03-03-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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Personally, I don't like people telling other people what they're allowed to do on their own property. All of a sudden the city officials decide they want to gentrify the area and start putting pressure on people trying to making a living. How is it that everyone is all for development as long as it benefits the upper/middle class only.
So you would be ok with your neighbor turning his or her property into a night club or gun range? Secondly, is this considered development? Is the property owner putting any money into it at all? There are codes and city leaders for a reason and the city should have a plan for this area (and others) that dictates these decisions instead of changing code willy nilly. As it is mentioned already, there isn't much use in that area, the city needs to clean it out.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Winterville
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So you would be ok with your neighbor turning his or her property into a night club or gun range? Secondly, is this considered development? Is the property owner putting any money into it at all? There are codes and city leaders for a reason and the city should have a plan for this area (and others) that dictates these decisions instead of changing code willy nilly. As it is mentioned already, there isn't much use in that area, the city needs to clean it out.
1.) 100% yes they should be able to do what they want. It's their property... kind of but not really considering property tax is just another way to prevent people from owning their land. If they proceeded to break the law in the way of noise pollution and need to be removed then so be it.

2.) It is for the people trying to better their current situation by selling things at this flea market

3.) Yes, they put in property taxes. Also. why are they obligate to put any money into the property?

4.) Codes and city leaders are often there to benefit those in power and with money because they WANT the city to look and feel a certain way and it offends them when others of lesser means don't mow their lawn as often or can't afford to keep their house maintained as well as theirs. So they are fined or the area is gentrified or codes are all of a sudden enforced when they haven't been for years.

5.) It appears as though there is plenty of use for the people at the flea market. Your suggestion to "clean it out is offensive. These are people, not rodents.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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1.) 100% yes they should be able to do what they want. It's their property... kind of but not really considering property tax is just another way to prevent people from owning their land. If they proceeded to break the law in the way of noise pollution and need to be removed then so be it.

2.) It is for the people trying to better their current situation by selling things at this flea market

3.) Yes, they put in property taxes. Also. why are they obligate to put any money into the property?

4.) Codes and city leaders are often there to benefit those in power and with money because they WANT the city to look and feel a certain way and it offends them when others of lesser means don't mow their lawn as often or can't afford to keep their house maintained as well as theirs. So they are fined or the area is gentrified or codes are all of a sudden enforced when they haven't been for years.

5.) It appears as though there is plenty of use for the people at the flea market. Your suggestion to "clean it out is offensive. These are people, not rodents.
1) You're ok with laws, but not ordinances and codes....

2) Fair point, I hope that it does.

3) They're not obligated, it depends on your definition of the word development. IMO development is the investing in or altering a property in an effort attract people and business to an area. The flea market has been here for a while evidently and its trying to continue its operation.

4) We are just going to fundamentally disagree here. Society requires laws, ordinances, and codes. You must a very unhappy person if you're in the US bc that is reality and exist in every partially developed municipality. I'm not advocating for special treatment for anyone. I believe a plan should be set for the city and adhered to. Development should follow that plan and special exceptions should be granted on merit, not by power and money. Unfortunately that isn't always the case.

5) Do you live in this area or are you just a proxy for the possibly offended? It has nothing to do with who or what is there. The area is a flood plain and unsafe, hence the inability to build anything new there. Since you care so much are you advocating that people should live in such a place? Clean it out was a reference to the earlier idea for the city to buy the property as it become available and use it as green pace or additions to RPN.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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UNC Board of Governors Approve Dowdy-Ficklen Renovation Project
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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ECU-Vidant merger clears hurdle - Daily Reflector

City taking 'next steps' to Town Common development - Daily Reflector
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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When I first started reading that article, I thought my phone screen was dirty and started scrubbing like hell, wondering why it wouldn't come clean. It took me a few minutes to realize it was just part of the webpage.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Update on construction projects.

Building boom - Daily Reflector
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Old 03-05-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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1.) 100% yes they should be able to do what they want. It's their property... kind of but not really considering property tax is just another way to prevent people from owning their land. If they proceeded to break the law in the way of noise pollution and need to be removed then so be it.

2.) It is for the people trying to better their current situation by selling things at this flea market

3.) Yes, they put in property taxes. Also. why are they obligate to put any money into the property?

4.) Codes and city leaders are often there to benefit those in power and with money because they WANT the city to look and feel a certain way and it offends them when others of lesser means don't mow their lawn as often or can't afford to keep their house maintained as well as theirs. So they are fined or the area is gentrified or codes are all of a sudden enforced when they haven't been for years.

5.) It appears as though there is plenty of use for the people at the flea market. Your suggestion to "clean it out is offensive. These are people, not rodents.
Unless it's your property. The purpose of zoning and regulation is to protect the health, safety, and general welfare of everyone.
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Beer and barbecue trail coming to Pitt County
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Old 03-07-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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This is pretty cool, and a great idea, IMO.


Here's a little more about the restaurants that may potentially be involved. It also gives insight about the lone objector, County commissioner member Jimmy Garris.

Garris raises concern about 'cue and brew promotion - Daily Reflector

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Pitt County's barbecue history and new craft beer industry are the focus of a new marketing campaign despite the objection of a county commissioner.

The Board of Commissioners approved with a 6-1 vote on Monday a $78,500 budget amendment for the Greenville-Pitt County Convention & Visitors Bureau to launch several new marketing initiatives, including a beer and barbecue trail program.

Commissioner Jimmy Garris voted against the recommendation after making a unsuccessful motion to remove the $12,500 designated for the trail program and staff attendance to a beer marketing tourism conference this month. The motion died for a lack of a second.

Commissioners Charles Farley and David Hammond didn't attend Monday's meeting.
"I cannot support spending public money for the promotion of alcoholic beverages," Garris said.
Andrew Schmidt, the bureau's executive director, said the $10,000 would be used to develop a "passport type" card listing the three Pitt County barbecue restaurants promoted on the state's Historic Barbecue Trail Jack Cobb and Son in Farmville, B's Barbecue in Greenville and Skylight Inn in Ayden along with other establishments.

It also would include the county's four current breweries, including Pitt County's Industry of the Year, Duck-Rabbit Craft Brewery in Farmville. Schmidt said participants would visit each location, get a passport "stamp" and then redeem the card for a prize at the bureau. The prize would be either a T-shirt or another promotional item.

The Pitt County Development Commission is partnering with the bureau on the project, said Schmidt.
"Culinary travel is a huge, huge thing in the tourism industry," Schmidt said. "Especially when you put (together) food and the specialty craft breweries that are popping up in Greenville and Pitt County. There are a lot of trails that exist across the state that promote food and alcohol related type trails."
It's not to promote excessive drinking but two businesses that go together, he said.

"It's designed to bring people from outside Pitt County into Pitt County for culinary travel. It's one of the biggest draws we have in Pitt County," Schmidt said.

People are traveling up and down the East Coast to visit craft breweries and barbecue restaurants, so this promotional effort is designed to lure people off Interstate 95, he said. As for the conference, Schmidt said he wants to learn how to market craft breweries.

The Greenville City Council has already approved the amendment.
"I certainly don't see this as promoting people to use alcohol," Commissioner Beth Ward said. "It's not like it isn't already here."

Commissioner Mark Owens Jr. noted that Pitt County's Alcoholic Beverage Control Board turns over more than $1 million of its revenue to the county for its general operating budget.
"I think that outweighs Jimmy's objection," Owens said.

Garris said he wishes he could change that situation but wanted to concentrate on the matter in front of them.

Garris later said he stands by his decision.

"Alcohol abuse is one of our major issues in this society. We spend billions of dollars trying to rehabilitate alcohol users and now we are going to make money promoting alcohol usage," Garris said.
Garris, who sits on the Pitt County Development Commission, which gives out the Industry of the Year Award, said while the process is done through secret ballot, he opposed Duck-Rabbit's selection as this year's winner.
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