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Old 01-13-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Not true about Texas as Chokelahoma and Okie St. are totally dependent on Texas players to field competetive teams, past and present.
OU "Big 3" on offense this year...
LJ - from Artesia, NM
DM - from Vegas
Broyles - homegrown in Norman

Big time receiver/TE contributions from...
Stills - Cali
Cam Kenney - Georgia
Ratteree - Weatherford, OK

Bigtimers on O for next year...
DeJuan Miller - NJ
Finch - Florida
Millard - MO

And just in case you have forgotten, lets review OU Heisman winners...
Billy Vessels - Cleveland, OK
Steve Owens - Miami, OK
Billy Sims - Hooks, TX...(grew up in St Louis)
Jason White - Tuttle, OK
Sam Bradford - PC, OK

Last sentence deleted.

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Old 01-13-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Uncle Petey is long gone.....
But Mr. Knight is alive and strong!
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Maybe you don't look at recruiter class rankings. See the one for this year? I don't see an SEC team on the top of that list...

1. Texas (BIG 12)
2. Florida State (ACC)
3. Alabama (SEC)
4. Florida (SEC)
5. OU (BIG 12)
6. Ohio State (BIG 10)
7. LSU (SEC)
8. Georgia (SEC)
9. USC (PAC-10)
10. Clemson (ACC)

College Football Class Rankings 2011 - ESPN

Yes, the SEC is good, but it mostly recruits players from the deep south. Most good players from Texas go to Texas. A lot of good players from California go to USC. The SEC doesn't get the best players-- they get good players, but so do the other major football schools.

You are going to use one year to base this with?

Kidding right?

If most good players in Texas go to Texas then why did they struggle so much this past year?

What really good player would want to go to the PAC 10 right now with USC being down?

Any speedy, strong player would want to head to the SEC where the football is much better then any other conference.

If Texas and California has so many great players then why did the SEC dominate the last 6-7 years?
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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You are going to use one year to base this with?

Kidding right?

If most good players in Texas go to Texas then why did they struggle so much this past year?

What really good player would want to go to the PAC 10 right now with USC being down?

Any speedy, strong player would want to head to the SEC where the football is much better then any other conference.

If Texas and California has so many great players then why did the SEC dominate the last 6-7 years?
Texas and USC each made multiple BCS and two NC game appearences over the past 6-7 years. Probably not the best example to prove your point.

You're not really trying to argue against the quality of athletes produced by the states of Texas and Cal, are you? It's pretty much agreed by everyone that CA, TX, and FL are the three most talent rich states for football.

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Old 01-13-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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OU "Big 3" on offense this year...
LJ - from Artesia, NM
DM - from Vegas
Broyles - homegrown in Norman

Big time receiver/TE contributions from...
Stills - Cali
Cam Kenney - Georgia
Ratteree - Weatherford, OK

Bigtimers on O for next year...
DeJuan Miller - NJ
Finch - Florida
Millard - MO

And just in case you have forgotten, lets review OU Heisman winners...
Billy Vessels - Cleveland, OK
Steve Owens - Miami, OK
Billy Sims - Hooks, TX...(grew up in St Louis)
Jason White - Tuttle, OK
Sam Bradford - PC, OK

Yeah, totally dependent. How about you continue to troll City v City and leave the football talk for us grownups.
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And just in case you have forgotten, lets review OU Heisman winners...
Billy Vessels - Cleveland, OK
Steve Owens - Miami, OK
Billy Sims - Hooks, TX...(grew up in St Louis)
Jason White - Tuttle, OK
Sam Bradford - PC, OK
<<<<<

hahahahaha...Aceter got dominated.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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You are going to use one year to base this with?

Kidding right?

If most good players in Texas go to Texas then why did they struggle so much this past year?

What really good player would want to go to the PAC 10 right now with USC being down?

Any speedy, strong player would want to head to the SEC where the football is much better then any other conference.

If Texas and California has so many great players then why did the SEC dominate the last 6-7 years?
In general, another aspect that cannot be forgotten is Coaching.

An interesting thing I've been thinking about is that, while certainly the majority of great players are from the South, many of the great coaches are from the Midwest.

Look at the following coaches:
Les Miles = from Michigan.
Urban Meyer = Ohio.
Stoops = Ohio
Tressel = Ohio.
Bo Pelini = Ohio.
Nick Saban = West Virginia (borders the Midwest)
Jim Harbaugh = Ohio.

Wow! Looks like Ohio dishes out the great coaches!

I may be wrong on which state all these guys were born in, but I know the above mentioned are Midwesterners. (Les Miles always got made fun of for his Michigan/Yankee accent when he was at Oklahoma State.)

I know another one of Oklahoma's great coaches not from the area, but from the Midwest is Bud Wilkinson. Wilkinson = had an insane run; I think he's from Michigan originally.

Switzer, "The King," of course is from the South = Arkie.

Just an interesting thing to think about.

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Old 01-13-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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That's a lot of "what ifs". Florida State was supposed to beat OK but didn't. Miami was supposed to beat Ohio State but didn't (Miami had a couple questionable calls go their way, too).

Also, USC would've destroyed Auburn. That team was stacked.
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Also, USC would've destroyed Auburn. That team was stacked.
<<<<<

Absolutely.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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In general, another aspect that cannot be forgotten is Coaching.

An interesting thing I've been thinking about is that, while certainly the majority of great players are from the South, many of the great coaches are from the Midwest.

Look at the following coaches:
Les Miles = from Michigan.
Urban Meyer = Ohio.
Stoops = Ohio
Tressel = Ohio.
Bo Pelini = Ohio.
Nick Saban = West Virginia (borders the Midwest)
Jim Harbaugh = Ohio.

Wow! Looks like Ohio dishes out the great coaches!

I may be wrong on which state all these guys were born in, but I know the above mentioned are Midwesterners. (Les Miles always got made fun of for his Michigan/Yankee accent when he was at Oklahoma State.)

I know another one of Oklahoma's great coaches not from the area, but from the Midwest is Bud Wilkinson. Wilkinson = had an insane run; I think he's from Michigan originally.

Switzer, "The King," of course is from the South = Arkie.

Just an interesting thing to think about.
Several of those Ohio guys are actually from the same town.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Several of those Ohio guys are actually from the same town.
Youngstown area if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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I don't think it's a mystery.

Football is a jewel culturally at all levels, not mere diversion, plus REEAALLLLYY high standards from fans and administration expect great results, therefore they look for great coaches and spend a lot of money.

Otherwise, like any other matchup, it generally goes down to who's better on gameday and who gets breaks when.
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