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Old 06-06-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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i think the reason is because they used to vote before the bowl games back then. I consider the ap and coaches poll to be equal pre-bcs.

Did someone say asterisk? Lol.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:32 AM
 
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:39 PM
 
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I don't see it as legit at all. While the Horns had a loss, Nebraska was undefeated that year (1970) and was awarded the AP title.

At the very least the Horns should have an * by it. We know that they love them some *.
It counts for the reason that other championships back in the day counted. Championships were awarded before the bowl games. Making their claim legit. It's just like OU who lost their bowl game in 1950 but was still awarded the national title.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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Sooners, 7 Big 12 Titles (Horns, 3).
Sooners, 7 AP National Titles (Horns, 3 AP)

Sorry Horn. Sooners win and have more prestige on the grander stage. Nothing will ever change that unless you match our titles.

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Old 06-19-2011, 06:25 PM
 
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It counts for the reason that other championships back in the day counted. Championships were awarded before the bowl games. Making their claim legit. It's just like OU who lost their bowl game in 1950 but was still awarded the national title.
No, it's not necessarily when the title was awarded so much as what. The AP is the superior ranking system compared to the National Football Foundation/Berryman/United Press International. Nebraska actually won the AP outright with an undefeated season in 1970.
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:34 PM
 
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No, it's not necessarily when the title was awarded so much as what. The AP is the superior ranking system compared to the National Football Foundation/Berryman/United Press International. Nebraska actually won the AP outright with an undefeated season in 1970.
But the coaches was just as legit as the media during that time. That's why Texas has four. It's shared if anything. But Texas has a right to claim that title as Nebraska. Again, championships were awarded to teams at the end of the season. Bowl games were nothing more than rewards for a great season. Especially the big bowls.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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But the coaches was just as legit as the media during that time. That's why Texas has four. It's shared if anything. But Texas has a right to claim that title as Nebraska. Again, championships were awarded to teams at the end of the season. Bowl games were nothing more than rewards for a great season. Especially the big bowls.
I still disagree with you. Maybe the shared title would be sufficient with a big ol' fat *. IMO the fact that the AP has stood the test of time throughout the modern era pretty much solidifies it as premier. I never hear anything about any of the other titling agencies/ratings except AP/BCS.

From our perspective of history, one would be hard pressed to say that Texas deserved the official national title that year more than Nebraska. Nebraska beat a higher ranked LSU team and Texas got beat by a lower ranked Notre Dame team. Texas was #3 on the AP that year as well. All of the Sooners' claimed titles are AP (if we claimed all the other awarded titles the Sooners would have something like 20 titles), so there is nothing to quibble about on the pedigree of the ranking/titling agency. Something to think about when claiming "official" titles.

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Old 06-20-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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The coaches have always been on the same tier as the media poll. Heck, the coaches poll is one that lasts the test of time as its used more to determine who plays for the championship now. So if the AP means so much now, should we indeed say that Pete Carroll did win a national title
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