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Old 06-04-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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Hey, college football fans:

When it comes to college athletic conferences (football, in particular), I have made my feelings known here a number of times:

1. I like 12 team conferences

2. I hate divisions

3. I like a full round robin (TOTALLY FAIR!) schedule (in this case: 11 games

4. I hate the current conference championship game (not always the best two teams playing, no balanced schedules within a conference or in either of the two divisions)

5. I like the notion of a 13 game (up one from current 12) schedule that includes 11 (MEANINGFUL!!!) with only 2 non-conference games (this is worth just by eliminating the cupcakes that come with 4 non-conference games, those miserable Alabama 86 Southwest Kansas State Teachers & Farmers 0) routs.

So here's what I'm wondering.....

What if a conference with the 11 game round robin and no divisions only scheduled a championship game in years when 2 or more teams tie for the lead at season end (3 or more teams would have two chosen by formula....like head to head records, or point differential in all league games)...

HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF TEN, DO YOU THINK, THERE WOULD BE A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME? 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10????


I realize this is a heavily mathematical question. It depends how many times you think a team could go 11-0 or if team went 10-1, would it be likely another would have that record. Or perhaps the notion that it is very likely that a team that went 9-2 would have at least one team with that record.

My guess (and the reason I'm asking);

I suspect that the conferences would have their cake and get to eat it, too. I suspect that the vast majority of years there would be a title game. All title games would be great: matching schools with same records and no down side. And that there would be minimal no game seasons, thus having revenue not seriously hurt at all.

What do you think? Personally I'd love to see such a conference. As a Big Ten fan, I hate the divisions. In my state, Illinois and Northwestern are separated. And the conference's premere game, Michigan vs. Ohio State is weakened as the old foes are in different divisions (Woody and Bo are turning over in their graves) and a Michigan-Ohio State game in Columbus or Ann Arbor might be meaningless if the two are destined to meet in a championship game in Chicago or Indianapolis a week later. Eeeeek.
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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If it only involves two teams there would never be a tie IMO. Head to head would break the tie.

So my answer would be zero.

It's beyond pointless to have 2 teams play each other twice in the same season.

Tom Osborne isn't a fan of it. Love this clip.

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Old 06-04-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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Personally I think Conf Championships are beneficial to the game. It forces teams to play a tough opponent at the end of the year whether they already played them or not. This game can cause teams to trip at the end of the year on their way for a NC/good bowl. This is why I think all conferences should be required to play one regardless of how many teams are within a conference.

Though, I agree the cupcake games should go. All schools should be required to play D1 schools for their out of conference games.

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Old 06-04-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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If it only involves two teams there would never be a tie IMO. Head to head would break the tie.

So my answer would be zero.

It's beyond pointless to have 2 teams play each other twice in the same season.

Tom Osborne isn't a fan of it. Love this clip.

that's one way to look at it. i see it a bit differently. if you have a round robin and all games count equally, then you are still tied with another opponent at the top of the standings.

why wouldn't you want a championship? it would decide the issue on the field where it should be. it would be an exciting game at season's end.

And if, for example, Ohio State were to beat Michigan on the last game of the season in Columbus so the two were tied on top, the Buckeyes would have had the advantage going on because of the home field advantage. So a championship game would be more than warranted.

Otherwise, in essence, you would have a tie on top of the standings...with the head to head winner going on that prized conference BCS slot.

But can explain this one to me: if it is pointless for a college football team to play the same opponent twice in the same season, why is it perfectly normal in college basketball for two games between the same opponents, a home and home series?

And why is it o.k. in the NFL for division foes to face each other twice?

I would think the opportunity to crown a real champ, based on what that team earned, would be far more important than worrying about two games in one season. As is right now, those two games happen frquently in championship games of major conferences. If Alabama (west) and Florida (east) play each other in the regular season, they can also play each other in the championship game.
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